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1 Keith Bagnall April 4, 2019 at 5:27 am

I am intyerested in going to Chester Lake. Information on spring breakup conditions for the Smith Dorrien Hwy is requested
a) coming from Canmore
b) coming from PLPP

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2 MaSid April 4, 2019 at 7:54 am

Somebody posted recently about the road. Sounded like potholes and ruts at the north end until the bridge. Then drier and smoother south of that. It will get a lot of melt runnels across the road as things melt, usually early March and still potholes to look out for even when reported as “smooth”. It does get graded reasonably regular. If you want to be nicer to your car come from the south and keep your eyes peeled. I avoid it in my little car altogether except winter given the state of my shocks.

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3 Mike Vanderland March 22, 2019 at 12:06 pm

I’m looking to find out if the road south of the highway 40 closure is dry yet? If anyone reading this is in the area this week and could comment on what it looks like that would be fantastic.

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4 Joe March 22, 2019 at 7:45 pm

I was just there yesterday and there was a good amount of snow right after the gate by Lougheed.

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5 MaSid March 23, 2019 at 12:05 pm

And still a few patches of snow past the road closure at elbow falls end of day yesterday. Lots of melt between start and end of hike, but still looks like there is more up the road.

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6 Helen Read March 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm

Last year on March 24th, I skied 9+ kms up hwy 40 to the parking lot connecting to Tyrwhitt and skied down Pocaterra to the hut. Glorious ski. Today, at least 1/4 of the road is down to pavement but all broken up, so one cannot ride a bike up there as yet. We skinned up the rock hard snow/ice to kms 3.5, enjoyed a nice leisurely lunch sitting on guard rail, constantly shoulder checking for any bear activity, and skinned back down in the slush (was trying out new skins). Recommend walking it instead, using poles and grippers (if still hard in morning). Poles hit pavement with every stride. No evidence of bears as yet (OR TICKS!)

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7 Mike Vanderland March 26, 2019 at 9:26 am

Thanks for your observations!

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8 Wyatt March 21, 2019 at 7:13 pm

Hey guys just wondering how technical Watridge Lake trail at Mt Shark is.

Thanks,

Wyatt

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9 Bob Truman March 21, 2019 at 7:22 pm

It’s an easy trail with a few very gentle hills for 4.8K. At that point there is a screaming fast, steep downhill with tight turns for the final 1K to the Spray River. It would be scary on icy conditions.

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10 Wyatt March 21, 2019 at 8:06 pm

Cheers, thanks so much.

Wyatt

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11 barb banff March 16, 2019 at 4:25 pm

Great to have yesterday’s Report on Lake O’Hara …..
Planning going there tomorrow so I wonder if anyone was there today? and whether it’s wax or turned to ice mush..
Thanks

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12 Tracy March 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm

Looking at skiing Crystal Line in Bragg Creek. Very new to the area….where is the trail head?

Cheers, Tracy

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13 Mike March 13, 2019 at 3:09 pm

Lost skis at Maple Ridge Golf Course. Calgary
Saturday March 9th, 2019 at about 3 pm. Leaned my Madshu Skate skis against the side of my truck and drove off with out loading them. 🙁

If you happened to find them I would love to get them back 403-615-6111

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14 Mike March 21, 2019 at 4:38 pm

My skis were found the same day by a caring neighbor across the street from Maple Ridge. I placed a sign on the gate to the parking lot announcing my loss. Meghan responded and reunited me with my new skis. Happy guy 🙂

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15 Georgie Fear March 11, 2019 at 8:57 pm

Anyone out there want to ski this Thursday in Banff? Spray River West trail or Healy Creek/Sundance Creek? We’re less likely to become cougar food if we aren’t alone! Im free all day until 2:30.

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16 pat davis March 11, 2019 at 8:59 am

I have had several great outings at West Bragg Creek this season. What a treasure that place is! I am amazed every time I go at how well the multi-use concept is working in reality. That brings to mind this question: who are/is the fantastic people/person who envisioned this and then worked to bring it to fruition? They have created a wonder and deserve public recognition. For my part- a huge THANK YOU!

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17 Alf Skrastins March 11, 2019 at 12:11 pm

Thanks for the question and your kind words of appreciation.
In late 2009, the Greater Bragg Creek Trails Association formed a public advisory committee to develop a comprehensive trails plan for the West Bragg Creek area. The advisory committee consisted of representatives from the hiking, biking, equestrian and XC skiing communities, as well as staff from Alberta Parks, Public Lands, cattle grazers, Spray Lakes Sawmills, etc.
The https://albertaparks.ca/media/5113149/kananaskis-country-all-season-trail-plan-for-west-bragg-creek-2010-.pdf was approved by the Province of Alberta in September 2010.
The volunteers of the Greater Bragg Creek Trails Association work closely with Alberta Environment and Parks staff to build and maintain the trails and to adapt the trails plan to provide the best possible experience for the full range of trail users at West Bragg Creek. All of this has taken over 45,000 hours of volunteer time and $1.4 million in financial support from donors.
Check out the GBCTA report for 2018… https://www.braggcreektrails.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/GBCTA_Annual_Report_2018-sized.pdf

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18 pat davis March 11, 2019 at 2:38 pm

Thank you for the answer, Al;f, and thank you again for the work you put in. BTW, I think I still have some old FWJs around somewhere, esp. the guide to the Upper Kootenay.

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19 christina larkins March 9, 2019 at 3:40 pm

Where exactly was the wolf seen on March 3rd? The caption under the photo indicates it was by the Bow River. Thanks.

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20 Chuck March 9, 2019 at 4:47 pm

5.25 km upstream of Banff

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21 france March 3, 2019 at 10:30 pm

Hi, we are 2 xc skiers from MOntreal looking to go skiing the banff Lake Louise National Park and or Canmore from March 16 to 21. In fact we are looking for any xc ski center that offers a variety of nice groomed trails, nice scenery. We are experience xc skiers and intend to ski approx.4 to 5 hours per day.
we would like to know what would be our best option to have as much as possible of nice groomed trails, good conditions, nice scenery, etc. We were thinking to stay in Canmore and ski at the NOrdic Center for the total of our journey. HOwever, there seems to have less snow that the Banff Lake Louisse Park. So we are thinking instead to go skiing in the National Park and stay at a hotel in Lake Louise. What do you think of our thoughts? We looked at different websites, including theNAtional Park but could not find how big is the resort of ski trails in total ie. how many km in total. How far would we need to drive to get to the trails from Lake Louise Village? Any other suggestions?

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22 Bob Truman March 3, 2019 at 10:41 pm

I recently wrote a post about this very topic in which I’ve included a list of my recommendations. Readers also submitted comments. What trails would you recommend to visitors?

Trails around here have plenty of snow.

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23 france March 4, 2019 at 9:37 pm

thanks for the info. I do not know where the 23 must ski trails you indicated are located. close to the Banff area, Lake Louise, Koho? Can you please tell me which Area the trails you indicated are located, Lake Louise, Banff, Koho, other area? We will book our lodging soon and I would like to book lodging where most of the ”must ski” trails are located. If I stay in Lake Louise Village, will we be close to some of the trails you indicated?
to answer your questions, we are intermediate to expert skiers and would like nice scenery, views and certaintly very good ski condiitons i.e groomed trails. Thank you in advance

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24 Bob Truman March 4, 2019 at 10:15 pm

Lake Louise would not be the best place to stay. Canmore would give you better access to all the trails. I’ve indicated beside each trail where it is located and I’ve displayed the legend at the bottom. All these trails are groomed regularly but I can’t guarantee they will be groomed to your liking. If it snows previous to the day you go, there may be fresh snow on the trail. As to which trails have the best views, that is very subjective. Perhaps you could look on the sidebar “Places to Ski” and search out the trails you’re interested in and read the descriptions and look at the photos. For example, if you click on Bill Milne, there are 31 posts with descriptions and pictures.

This may help you: Trailhead locations

If you’re looking for a challenge: Risto’s Hill Pain Score

On the main menu, there’s lots of helpful information under the “Resources” and “Maps” tabs.

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25 france March 5, 2019 at 10:29 pm

Hi Bob and Eric,
Thank you very much for the info. Very helpful. Pictures of the Bill Milne are great. That is the type of trails I am looking for. the scenery seems fantastic. I think it may be more convenient if I stay in Canmore. I understant that Cannore and Kananaski are together. I will try to find lodging. I will be alone, so if you or other skiers are available I would be more than happy to ski with companions!

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26 f March 8, 2019 at 8:14 pm

Hi Bob,
Is there a web site or blog where skiers posted in the morning where would be a good area to ski? I see the posts after the day. but if we want to know in advance either the day before or in the morning where people go, how do we know? Thanks france

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27 Bob Truman March 8, 2019 at 9:13 pm

If you check in the morning, the Live Grooming Reports for Canmore Nordic Centre, Peter Lougheed Provincial Park, and Mt Shark will indicate which trails have been groomed overnight. There is no website(that I’m aware of) where people post in the morning their plans for the day.

28 Eric R March 4, 2019 at 10:53 pm

hi, If you stay in canmore you are more central to all the best ski areas,strong skiers could do the best skiing in Lake Louise in two days (avg 50-60k and drive between two trails;eg pipstone and moraine lake, yoho then on to field )day3 peter Lougheed provincial park ;Blueberry Hill /Tyrwhitt Loop/ kananaskis Fire Lookout /Climb Whiskey Jack followed by 6K of fast downhill on Pocaterra. day 4 Canmore Nordic center. day 5 Skogan Pass summit,then Skogan loop to Hummingbird Plume, day 6 goat creek from banff then drive to cascade valley.this is a very aggressive ski week and will be happy to join you on any of these trips on my 3 days off.as local skiers we know to watch the weather / groomer reports and know alberta has a lot of new skiers and trail walkers ,plus spring could be here in full force by the 16th….. our 60 k days will not be 6 hours in warm temps or new snow……all in all canmore nordic center will have the best skiing culture (lots of regular grooming) rest of areas ,need to watch reports for best skiing.cheers !

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29 france March 5, 2019 at 9:20 pm

Hi Eric and Bob ,
thank you very much for your great informaitons. very helpful. I love your plan with trail suggestions for each day. I like to do long distance especially when the scenery is nice. I will tray to find the trails on a may and figure out how I can do that. I initially planned to stay in Canmore but the trail reports on their Website always says ”Marginal conditions” so that’s why I was thinking to ski in Lake Louise and Banff. I was told that there is more snow. I will check again and try to find lodging in Canmore. I would certainly love companion skiers as I will be alone. That will be great. If you are available to ski within those dates March17 to 22, you can email me at bordeleaufrance@htomail.com

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30 MaSid March 5, 2019 at 10:19 pm

And make sure you stop by the snow couches on pipestone and Fairview in Louise if it’s a sunny day. Discover the value of a little basking mid way on your ski day with some tea and dark chocolate. Another one in west elk pass in PLPP (the best one).

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31 france March 7, 2019 at 11:13 pm

Hi again,
Finally, I will be staying in Canmore, the Alpine club from March 19 to 25th. I hope I will have companions to ski with.
Looking forward for great ski and fun.
France

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32 france March 8, 2019 at 8:01 pm

Hi,
how can we read the live traffic streem? I see on the main page that there are posting but I cannot read them.
Thanks
France

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33 GordN March 1, 2019 at 10:59 am

Some bluesy tunes by a dude from Ft McMurray.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvGvrKmYkIa0L4-1z5W4sYQ

Gord

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34 MDNB March 1, 2019 at 10:27 am

What are the best options for cross country skiing from Sunshine Village? I have a group of friends downhill skiing at Sunshine and I am looking for the best option either from the same parking lot or near by for a moderate/intermediate XC ski trail.

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35 MaSid March 1, 2019 at 12:37 pm

Pay the “gondola only” fee for the ride up to the village and ski south from there into the sunshine meadows. This involves going up downhill ski runs (and back down them) to the south boundary and no grooming beyond there, just skier set track if you are lucky. Metal edge light touring to full AT terrain really and still tough to ski back down to the gondola on skinnier skis. Apparently there may be some “groomed” trackset, based on a post from chuck early in the season. Another option from the parking lot is heally pass. Not groomed cross country trail, but just doable on light touring if a proficient and skilled skier. Most use AT gear for this trail. Past the camp site it gets steeper, also some avalanche terrain. The better option may be to drive back down the road to the highway and ski Brewster creek.

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36 RichieRich February 24, 2019 at 3:06 pm

Semi pity-party posting ahead… looking for advice. I’ve been diagnosed with Mononucleosis, which actually started manifesting late January. This obviously isn’t fun at all. My Doc and pretty much every resource online does not address recovery from an athletes perspective. I get that I need to lay low for a couple weeks but after that? Any/All advice either first hand or otherwise is appreciated. Am looking for timing, intensity and efforts when returning to motion, rebuilding, etc… all appreciated.

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37 HenryL February 24, 2019 at 4:59 pm

My son was quite young when he had it, as a track cycling sprinter. They treated it like a viral flu, several weeks off, and then it was basically back to normal, if there can be such a thing in competitive athletics.

Not sure what happens to an older athlete.

I wish you a full recovery and great skiing in the future.

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38 YYC February 24, 2019 at 8:11 pm

Google ‘Epstein-Barr + athletes’ instead of mono and you’ll get a lot of info. Early return to sport has risk of spleen rupture and/or recurrence. Down time is contingent on the specific case but the ranges reported are 3 – 6 months (return to full blown activity).

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39 ChrisD February 24, 2019 at 10:28 pm

I was diagnosed with mono in late 2010 and didn’t listen to my body and it ended up morphing into a post-viral fatigue which has taken me years to slowly recover from. However, I don’t mean to scare you. For most people, recovery is usually a matter of weeks. I’ve found the following helpful in my recovery. Keep in mind these are things that I’ve needed to do beyond the initial normal recovery period, i.e. I think it’s normal to sleep a ton early on in mono recovery but after awhile I found long naps during the day unhelpful.

– Keep as regular a sleep schedule as possible. Try to get to bed and wake up at roughly the same time each day. If you nap, keep it relatively short.
– Nutrition has been important in my recovery. If you google Epstein-Barr nutrition or diet you should get some guidelines. Basically, it’s about eating healthy (duh) but there are some foods that are more helpful than others and vice versa.
– Exercise was something I neglected even when advised to start slow. As you start to feel a little better, I recommend slowly beginning an exercise routine. Even if it’s just gentle walking for a bit.
– I found mono isolating and depressing (though I’m prone to that). Getting sunshine, having some social contact, getting out of the house at some point, even for a short walk, are all things that were helpful.
– The key is to listen to your body. Take exercise slow.

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40 Jaclyn February 22, 2019 at 4:05 pm

I drove past Redwood Meadows Golf course and could see the track set from the road. I am wondering if any one has information about the trails, as I wasn’t able to find any. Thanks!

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41 RichieRich February 24, 2019 at 3:01 pm

I’ve asked that question here too, perhaps twice last year. Really nobody responded. Eventually after much searching online I seem to recall finding online that the trails were intended to be for golf members. I might have found that on the golf course web page somewhere. If you find out please let us know. The trails look nice especially for those wanting or needing flatter trails.

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42 Jeff February 24, 2019 at 7:19 pm

I’ve heard from someone that lives in Redwood that a few folks just go out and trackset along the berm and part of the golf course. I’m pretty sure anyone could ski it if they were so inclined.

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43 Diana Piggott February 24, 2019 at 9:00 pm

I also have heard from a Redwood resident that she can ski almost from her front door, and there is an approx. 10k loop 🙂

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44 Kinga February 17, 2019 at 10:06 pm

How does one submit a photo to accompany a trip report? I see folks sometimes do; is there a way without emailing or linking?

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45 Bob Truman February 18, 2019 at 7:44 am

Linking to a photo sharing site(similar to what Chuck does) is the only way for readers to display a photo. Readers will occasionally email a photo for me to attach to their comment, which is fine, but I can’t guarantee I’ll have time to put it on right away.

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46 Kinga February 18, 2019 at 11:24 am

Thank you!

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47 Pam February 16, 2019 at 1:50 pm

For Sale: Trip to Assiniboine Lodge March 1-6, 2019
Helicopter from Canmore return.
Shared accommodation in double room with 1 female.
Alpine and/or Nordic skiing, fully guided, gourmet meals.
$2000 negotiable
Have to cancel due to ski injury.
Phone Jonny at 604-698-7400 or email ejcovello@gmail.com

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48 Matt February 16, 2019 at 12:16 pm

How well will Rossignol BC 70’s fit in the groomed tracks around here? I know they’ re at the limit but will they be more difficult than BC 65’s?

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49 Mike W February 16, 2019 at 1:35 pm

I don’t have personal experience with either ski, but Cross-Country Canada’s 2009 tracksetting specifications says the track width must be between 60 and 70mm. I presume the “70” in “BC 70” means the ski is 70mm wide. If so, then you are indeed at the limit, or even beyond the limit if the tracksetting equipment is less than 70mm wide. Even if you have a 70mm ski in a 70mm track, you’re going to get some friction between the ski edge and the side of the track, which will slow you down. This friction will be worse in a curve since the ski is straight and will cut across the trackset curve in a straight line. The tip and tail of the ski will be cutting into the outer side of the curved trackset, while the middle of the ski will cut into the inner side of the curved trackset. I’d say the BC 65 is already pushing the limit for trackset skiing. Of course, if you want the BC 70 primarily for out-of-track skiing and are willing to put up with the added friction in the tracks, then go for it. But if it looks like you are going beyond having added friction in the tracks and are actually damaging the tracks, then you need to be prepared to ski out of the tracks entirely.

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50 Jeff February 16, 2019 at 3:51 pm

Hi Matt,
The 70mm skis are moving into the realm of light touring and are not a track ski. My wife skis on the Rossignol 59 mm which is already the width of most of the tracks set in Kananaskis. Old well skied track or slightly snow filled tracks might give you some glide but a newly set track you will be scraping against the side walls. Typically people on wider skis are encouraged to ski beteeen the tracks and not in them.

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51 Jenn February 15, 2019 at 12:08 pm

Hello fellow skiers!
My husband, pup and I are headed to Kimberley!(best mountain town in BC in my humble opinion :). We’ve skied many of the trails around town and love them all. This trip though we like to ski the rail trail from Kimberley townsite to Cranbrook-approx. 28km. We know its not groomed but have heard rumours people do ski/snowshoe the trail. Has anyone skied the full length? Also-Round the Mountain is a great hiking/biking trail in Kimberley in the summer-has anyone cross country skied this trail? Thanks in advance for any tips and info!

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52 pat davis February 8, 2019 at 7:34 am

Yesterday looking at the ski-trail maps, I figured going from the Kananaskis golf course to Wedge Pond would make a nice outing. Unfortunately, I could not find a parking spot where I could access the trail. That brings up two questions: first, did I totally miss what is an easy access at the golf course? Second, any reports on the quality of the route? Any info will be gratefully received.

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53 Bob Truman February 8, 2019 at 7:49 am

There are parking lots at the golf course, but you’d have to walk a fair distance to the ski trail. I park on the road. The trail is in excellent condition. There’s a big parking lot at Wedge Pond.

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54 pat davis February 9, 2019 at 8:12 am

Thank you, Bob

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55 Jennifer Ferguson February 7, 2019 at 7:23 pm

Hello – we are excited to come ski in the mountains next weekend as we are from Ontario and very little snow here for good X country skiing. We have visited Lake Louise 3 different years and skied many of the trails around Lake Louise. Last year we skied Lake O’Hara which was unbelievable. I was hoping for a response for a few good suggestions that might be a good 3-5 hour ski or a favourite ski that might include a break for lunch!! Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks,
Jen Ferguson

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56 helen read February 7, 2019 at 10:28 pm

Kicking Horse Ski Club is hosting a Yoho Challenge on Sunday Feb 17th for $20. The Connector (can start at Field Info Centre or at Natural bridge) and Alluvial Fan (which includes the Horse Trail and Tree Hugger) are my two favorite trails out at Emerald Lake. Lunch could be bought at Emerald Lake Lodge. On w/e’s Lake O’Hara Lodge is open to skiers for a light lunch on a first come-first serve basis. Cost $22 cash provides soup, salad, dessert, homemade bread, tea/coffee. Pipestone often busy on w/e’s but a moderate to easy 13 kms circuit. PLPP worth the drive with Elk Pass/Blueberry/Tyrwhitt being some of the favorites. Those liking bigger hills enjoy The Lookout there. Check live grooming link. Redearth is a neat ski but I prefer it not on a w/e. Mt Shark has various lengths of loops; the 15 kms GREEN (but not “green” for easy!!) is a big workout. Temps should be calling for blue wax by next w/e. Be thankful you are not here this w/e.

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57 JeremyN February 8, 2019 at 1:55 pm

Best advice always Helen! I would only add to Jen, that PLPP (Peter Lougheed ProvPark) is a must visit to the Discovery/Visitors Centre and to start off skiing the scenic & friendly Meadow-Amos-Wholley-Wheeler circuit. Good picnic spots & great after ski fire and warm up at centre. Word to wise: PLPP is classic skiing only (no skating).

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58 jennifer ferguson February 8, 2019 at 8:59 pm

Thanks Helen Read for the advice – if anyone else has any 2-3 hours skis let me know. Thanks!

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59 Hillary Smith February 4, 2019 at 9:55 pm

My husband and I have a room at Lake O’Hara Lodge for the Feb 22/23 weekend and unfortunately are unable to use it. It is approx $1500 per bedroom. If anyone is interested please let me know.

There are infact two rooms available so two couples/two sets of ppl could go.

Happy Trails 🙂

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60 Mike W February 3, 2019 at 8:36 am

Further to Bob’s Feb 2 article on cold-weather wax, several sources recommend graphite glide wax in really cold weather. Apparently it is cold-weather glide wax to which graphite has been added. The graphite provides mechanical lubrication to the snow-ski interface. Has anyone had experience of using this wax in very cold conditions?

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61 Hugh February 3, 2019 at 11:42 am

Mike, I have used graphite glide wax quite successfully in cold conditions back in my coaching days. I’d probably use it for <-10C
No doubt there are good cold Fluor waxes out there but $$$

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62 Mike W February 7, 2019 at 3:17 pm

Tried a non-fluoro graphite cold wax yesterday on my skate skis in about -12C (in comparison to low-fluoro non-graphite cold wax in similar conditions about a week earlier). The low-fluoro non-graphite wax performed much better. The graphite wax was more like a polar grip wax. I had no problem walking straight up gentle inclines, and could even go straight up moderate inclines with some support from the poles. As for trying to skate, I could only keep the skis moving on gentle downslopes or steeper. Glide was noticeably better in the sun and noticeably worse in the shade. Perhaps a fluoro wax with graphite would perform better.

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63 Aldona Torgunrud January 30, 2019 at 10:03 pm

We too are wondering about Goat Creek. We are a group with the Regina Ski Club who hope to do it on Friday. Any report from the last few days would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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64 Bob Truman January 30, 2019 at 10:21 pm

I skied Goat Creek to Banff yesterday and it was excellent for most of the way.(My update was lost due to a website glitch) I don’t know how warm it got today so I’m not sure if it’s still in good shape. The final 2K into Banff on Spray West are compromised with tree debris, glazed and shallow, washed-out tracks. Photos: Goat Creek Goat Creek2

The temperature going forward is sub-zero, so if the snow didn’t deteriorate today, it should be good.

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65 Aldona Torgunrud January 30, 2019 at 10:32 pm

Thank you Bob – unless we hear otherwise I think we’ll finally get to do it. Yahoo!

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66 Mike W January 30, 2019 at 10:51 pm

See my and Kerrie’s trip reports from today.

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67 Aldona Torgunrud January 31, 2019 at 11:55 am

Thanks for the excellent report on Goat Creek from yesterday! Hopefully it won’t melt much today. We’re planning to go tomorrow unless we hear a negative report from today….

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68 barb banff January 30, 2019 at 9:42 pm

Goat creek-
Anyone know how the trail and tracks are holding on the Goat creek to Spray section? Bob’s Trip looked wonderful! But it doesn’t usually last long ….
Thanks

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69 barb banff January 30, 2019 at 9:51 pm

Sent too soon- does anyone remember what day they usually set Lake O’Hara Thursday or Friday?
Thanks again.

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70 Bob Truman January 30, 2019 at 9:57 pm

The Lake O’Hara Lodge posted on their website on Jan 28: “The Lake O’Hara Road was Freshly track-set this afternoon. Next track-setting will be Thursday this week.”

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71 barb banff January 31, 2019 at 9:04 am

thanks Bob. I think it looks like that will get fresh snow
tonight. and the ARTIC VORTEX cold!
Oh well more snow is good

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72 barb banff January 31, 2019 at 9:31 am

thanks Bob. I think it looks like that will get fresh snow
tonight. and the ARTIC VORTEX cold!
Oh well more snow is good….

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73 JeremyN January 31, 2019 at 9:38 pm

Still Very good Barb! See Mike W’s and my trip report today.

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74 Skier Barb January 27, 2019 at 2:27 pm

Is anyone here familiar with the XC or light touring trails around Jasper? I’m look8ng at skiing the Pyramid Fire Road. Is it similar to the LOH fire road? Which of the other trails around Jasper are the most scenic?

Ski trail map here:
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/jasper/activ/activ-experience/hiver-winter/carteski-skimaps

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75 MaSid January 27, 2019 at 4:04 pm

Check out maligne lake area and the bald hills lookout. Great views down the lake.

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76 Diana Piggott January 27, 2019 at 10:49 pm

Unfortunately, a lot of the best trails are now closed for most of the winter 🙁

I like the trail to Summit Lake.

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77 Dean January 25, 2019 at 11:23 pm

Wondering if anyone has skied on Lake Minnewanka, or if it’s even allowed. I skied on Maligne Lake last week and it was fantastic.

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78 Diana Piggott January 25, 2019 at 11:27 pm

People are reporting good ice skating on Lake Minnewanka. Apparently this is a good year for skating, with the lack of snow :-/

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79 Dean MYERS January 26, 2019 at 8:57 am

Thanks. I’m basically looking for other places to do overnight trips with a pulk. Lakes are great because there’s no slope.

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80 Arie January 28, 2019 at 8:01 am

When I drove by the other day on my way to Cascade there was open water 100 m from the dam. I would not trust the ice on Minnewanka. Two-Jack seemed to be well frozen.

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81 paul January 20, 2019 at 8:23 am

Hi Guys,

I just Have to go skiing today and would like to try Cascade Valley for the first time but am undecided as to whether Cascade Valley would be a good option. I read on this site that Cascade Valley was +1 celcius yesterday and the track was fast. I’m a relative beginner so I’m thinking that the track may be frozen or too slushy for me today. Would it be better for me to go to Lake Louise today?

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82 Barbara January 16, 2019 at 9:04 am

Does anyone know when the Bearspaw Kananaskis Travel Centre Esso and Tim Horton’s will be opening?

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83 paul January 12, 2019 at 10:06 am

Hi Guys,

I’ve skied about 20 time now so consider myself a pro–not!

Anyways, I bought some solid wax and liquid wax. On youtube, it says that I should melt the wax onto my skis with a hot iron and scrape off the excess wax but that’s too much work and mess for me.

I looked at my friend’s rental skis and it looks like the wax is about 3mm thick. When I rub my solid and liquid wax on my skis, the applied wax is so thin that it looks like crayon has been used on my skis.

Honestly, I can’t tell any difference in performance whether my skis are waxed crayon style or if they are without wax. Am I doing something wrong by just rubbing on the wax bar and liquid wax?

I would like to try getting the skis professionally waxed in order to see if there is any difference in performance but I don’t want to spend $50 and find out that I don’t see any difference.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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84 Bob Truman January 12, 2019 at 10:11 am

“I looked at my friend’s rental skis and it looks like the wax is about 3mm thick.”

You shouldn’t be able to see any wax thickness, at least not on the tips and tails(the glide portion of your skis).

Let’s start at the beginning. Are you talking glide wax or kick wax?

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85 paul January 12, 2019 at 10:29 am

I’m not sure. The store sold me Swi F4 all temperature universal glide wax rub on which I use for the smooth ends of my skis, and Swix F4 all temperature universal glide wax Paste Wax which I use for the scales in the middle of my skis.

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86 Hugh January 12, 2019 at 10:32 am

In addition to this, If you are talking glide wax, what level of ski do you have?
IE lower priced skis tend to have an extruded plastic base which has mediocre glide and responds to glide waxing ok.
More expensive skis have a higher quality base which is sintered. Which really means it accepts glide wax into the pores of the base and gives you better glide. You can melt glide wax in, iron it then scrape it off.
Rental ski bases for the most part fall onto the first category of extruded.
Personal opinion is that if I had better quality skis, I would hot wax them,. With extruded bases I’d try a hot wax to see if it improved glide but with no expectations.

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87 paul January 12, 2019 at 10:36 am

My skis were about $200. The scales are pretty rough. I think the store gave me wrong wax. Shouldn’t they have given me kick wax for the middle of the ski and glide wax for the smooth parts?

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88 Bob Truman January 12, 2019 at 11:35 am

We’re making headway. I’ve determined that you have waxless fishscale skis. You don’t need kick wax for your skis, however the tips and tails require glide(hot) waxing. The rub-on stuff tends to wear off quickly. Universal wax is adequate but unexceptional. If hot waxing is “too much work and mess” you’ll have to be content with average performance.

If you want to make your skis perform well, I’d follow Hugh’s instructions for glide waxing. To fine-tune even further, use the correct temperature glide wax for the conditions.

The only time the fish scales will require any treatment is in sticky wet snow where they need to be polished with something similar to Swix Eazy-Glide to avoid the snow sticking to them.

If you are of equal ability and fitness as another skier, but you’re using waxless skis with extruded bases and rub-on glide wax while the other skier has waxable skis, sintered bases, and the correct glide wax for the conditions, you will always be slower.

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89 paul January 12, 2019 at 11:53 am

Thanks for the info guys. I’m just going to keep waxing my skis crayon style everytime I go out. Then, once I’m a better skier, I’ll get better skis and learn to hot wax them.

Thanks again.

90 paul January 12, 2019 at 12:07 pm

By the way…I see senior citizens pass me with ease while I am out of breath. After reading your advice, I now realize that it may be my skis.

91 paul January 9, 2019 at 5:48 pm

Hi Guys,
I’ve skied Banff a couple of times last year and it was nice. I want to go again this weekend but don’t know if there’s enough snow there. I don’t know the name of the ski trails but the ones I would like to go are right below the Banff Hot Springs. Would anyone know if there would be enough snow to ski there this weekend?

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92 Chuck January 9, 2019 at 6:44 pm

Hi Paul,
I believe you are referring to the Sundance Trail, which starts at the Cave & Basin. It is rated as “poor” and I would not recommend it.
Suggest you go a little bit higher in elevation to the Cascade Valley for more snow.
Have a great weekend.

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93 paul January 9, 2019 at 8:40 pm

Thanks Chuck,

You saved me hours of driving. Will go to Lake Louise.

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94 barb banff January 9, 2019 at 9:06 pm

Not to confuse things but the trail that is below what is called the upper Hot Springs is the spray fire road trail. It was track set a few days ago and definitely has enough snow. I can’t swear to it current quality however..
Check out “trail conditions ” On this website.
It starts just pass the Fairmont Banff springs hotel.. good luck

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95 jim January 9, 2019 at 10:07 am

Hi Folks,
In the Rockies in Jan/Feb, what temp range GLIDE wax are people using on
their cross country skis?
The recommendations I’m getting at a ski store seem warm (Maplus Universal
Yellow -5/0C )
Any info very appreciated!

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96 Helen Read January 9, 2019 at 11:02 am

While most people don’t ski in these temperatures, I often record REALLY cold ski days. Last Jan 10th it was -19 C on Goat Creek and last Feb 20th it was -27 C at Cascade Warden’s Cabin. This is the Land of Chinooks and our temperatures range greatly-just above zero to these teeth-rattlers.

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97 Jeff B January 9, 2019 at 11:33 am

Here is how I manage my glide wax using the Swix ratings:
– Yellow (CH10) is for summer storage and base cleaning only
– Blue (LF6 or CH6) for days with a high above -15ºC
– Green (CH4) when the high is below -15ºC
Glide wax fails pretty hard when you ski below the low temp rating, I describe it as skiing on the beach. But it will still work reasonably well above it’s listed temp range. I will have blue on for most of the Jan/Feb season and only periodically go to green as required. The temp range for your Maplus wax will be too warm, try to find something that bottoms out around -12ºC or so.

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98 Doug Connery January 9, 2019 at 1:19 pm

My wax coach has a great little saying “kick soft and glide hard”. In other wards, it is generally best in the Rockies with the dry snow to use a harder or colder glide wax than the snow temperature. Thus use blue when is cold and green when it is really cold.

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99 Jim January 9, 2019 at 4:51 pm

Thank you all for the information!
I’m just about to try glide waxing for the first time. Never put much
thought into it before… just used whatever they put on during a ski tune-up,
through out the ski season.

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100 Ron January 6, 2019 at 7:40 pm

Would be interested to hear from anyone who is running newer waxless skin skis. How are they working, have they replaced your waxables or your regular waxless?

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101 Alf Skrastins January 6, 2019 at 8:29 pm

I have a pair of Fischer Twin Skin and an identical pair of Fischer Classic (taxable) skis. I’ve used the twin skins in all conditions from -16 C to +12 C.
I prefer to use the waxable skis, whenever the air temperature is below -4C as long as there is not a significant melting effect from sunshine. On cold, dry snow, wax is still faster. Anything up to about VR45.
But if the temperature is forecast to get near or above 0C, if there is strong sunshine, if there is new, wet snow, if there is old snow, if there are needles and cones in the snow… then I use the twin skins. It saves a lot of irritation and it means I can carry a much smaller wax kit.

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102 Chuck January 6, 2019 at 8:51 pm

Sounds like they deserve to be Taxable!

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103 Doug Connery January 9, 2019 at 1:23 pm

I also concur with Alf. I use both types however I found one time when conditions where really wet, the skin techs soaked up the water, got really heavy and slowed me down to a crawl. I often wondered if a pair of fish scales would have been a better choice that day.

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104 Hugh January 6, 2019 at 10:29 pm

I concur with Alf. Around here we will use waxable or Atomic Skintecs We travel exclusively with them. No wax box needed.
Used them at CNC today +3 great kick and glide.
A friend compares them to old style waxless like an iPhone to a rotary dial phone.

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105 paul January 5, 2019 at 9:15 pm

Does anyone know what the condition is like for Lake Louise Great Divide today?

Also, can you rent skis at Lake Louise?

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106 MaSid January 5, 2019 at 9:46 pm

Here’s the official report link for Louise. Sounds like tracks set today so should be great.
https://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/tcond/cond_e.asp?opark=100092
Rentals maybe at wilsons sports in the mall site, or multiple options in banff, or see the add postings on the sidebar. Call ahead.

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107 paul January 5, 2019 at 10:37 pm

Awesome!!! Thanks, MaSid.

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108 GordN January 6, 2019 at 7:26 pm

As does the Chateau rents as well

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109 Jade January 5, 2019 at 9:11 am

Trying to figure out where to ski today. Wondering what might get trackset? Any educated guesses?

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110 Roger Sakatch January 4, 2019 at 6:08 pm

I wonder what the skate skiing trail will be like at Shark mountain on Saturday?

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111 RichieRich January 4, 2019 at 1:43 pm

Anyone know what’s the deal with the CNC grooming reports the last few weeks? no updates at all.

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112 Bruce January 4, 2019 at 4:57 pm

They haven’t done much so it could be accurate. Still plenty of piles of art snow sitting around.

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113 Skier Barb January 4, 2019 at 12:27 pm

Does anyone know of a trip report or website that shows a Goat Creek elevation profile? Curious for how long a flat stretch there is on the Banff side and how much gain total.

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114 MaSid January 4, 2019 at 3:25 pm

goat creek to Banff and back, It’s about 1900 ft of total elevation gain, according to altimeter watch readings, not gps data.

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115 Skier Barb January 4, 2019 at 5:08 pm

Thanks. Also found this page that shows a full elevation profile: https://www.alltrails.com/explore/recording/goat-creek-trail–119

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116 MaSid January 3, 2019 at 1:54 pm

Seems my madshus light touring 3/4 metal edge waxless fish scale skis (52 mm) with NNN BC bindings are finally at the end of their life cycle after 15 years of use. Lots of noise in the track and bad glide requiring more effort to keep up to others who are gliding and double poling with ease. My guess is the camber is shot after lots of trail breaking off track. Any recommendations for an equivalent light touring ski that will stand up to the off trail abuse and still function in a groomed track? Make/model/store in calgary, etc. Thanks in advance for any helpful advise.

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117 Willie January 3, 2019 at 3:35 pm

I have a pair of skis in the Gear Swap section. Details are there. A good deal if you think they will work for you. Can send a couple photos if you email me.

Cheers

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118 Willie January 3, 2019 at 3:38 pm

October 5, 2018

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119 Doug Connery January 3, 2019 at 9:35 pm

I use a pair of light touring Fischer E89s that I picked up from Life Sport about 10 years ago. They are about 59-60 mm at the shovel so they just fit into groomed tracks. They are wax-able skis with camber and have metal edges.

They have served me well for trips into Skoki, Tonquin Valley, Paradise Valley, Chester Lake, Molar Meadows etc. They are also great for the Telephone Loop in Bragg Creek when it is icy.

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120 Jim January 4, 2019 at 2:40 pm

I have the Rossi EVO 65 BC skis with scales, full edges, about 3 yrs old.. They seem just fine for light backcountry and they work pretty well in tracks too. I use skins with them sometimes as well. Got em at MEC. I think the new model is the BC 59 which would fit a little more comfortably in tracks

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121 MaSid January 4, 2019 at 3:30 pm

Thanks folks. Willie: probably too long. Will check out the other suggestions. Probably go with the known madshus product (double camber) as it had served me well. Curious if quality has changed over the years though through relocating manufacturing, as is the case with many products these days.

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122 JMcGee January 2, 2019 at 12:40 pm

Bearberry conditions? Does anyone know what the snow conditions are like at Bearberry? Thank you.

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123 Doug Connery January 2, 2019 at 4:16 pm

They have packed and track set the trails with good and bad spots.They need more snow to improve the conditions.

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124 Annie January 2, 2019 at 8:31 am

Anyone know of the ski conditions at the River Bend Rec area in Red Deer?

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125 Bob Truman January 2, 2019 at 8:35 am

Doug Connery was in Red Deer yesterday and left a detailed report with photos in the January Trip Reports page. From the trail report, it appears the Heritage Ranch trails are in better shape than the Riverbend golf course trails. http://reddeernordic.ca/?page_id=372

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126 Wendy January 1, 2019 at 6:50 pm

Happy New Year All!

I have a question that’s not about skiing, but about biking in the winter that I hope to get some advice on as I believe there are fat biking skiers who read and contribute to skier bobs website. I have a Specialized Rhyme Comp 27.5+ MTB that I’m considering putting studded tires on. With the shortage of snow this year I thought I might be able to ride at WBC and also at Nose Hill and Fish Creek.
Are there guidelines for tire width and psi that I should follow when riding trails? Or perhaps a resource that I can access to find this information.
Thanks a bunch,
Wendy

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127 YYC January 2, 2019 at 9:47 am

https://www.braggcreektrails.org/fat-biking/

Essentially – if you’re leaving a rut, you need wider tires or firmer conditions.

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128 Wendy January 2, 2019 at 5:05 pm

Thanks for the link and information.

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129 Steve Riggs January 2, 2019 at 9:02 pm

Well put, YYC! That’s it for etiquette in a nutshell. Don’t expect a huge amount of extra flotation though, from your plus tires. If you are leaving ruts- riding will be a struggle and no fun anyway, plus you can expect to incur the wrath of fat bikers- same as you would from skiers for trashing a set track by walking on it. I don’t own a fat bike, as my main winter interest is skiing, but once things get packed down, and the inevitable chinook hits town making for poor skiing at WBC- things are usually firm enough for great riding on “skinny” tires. Studs are generally needed in such conditions- although yesterday the WBC trails were either dirt, or grippy packed snow. This past week- I also enjoyed very good riding on firm packed snow in 12 Mile Coulee and Paskapoo Slopes- expect a bit more ice once things freeze up again.
One more bit of advice from this long time winter rider- hands and feet seem especially vulnerable to the cold when riding- figure out a reliable system before committing to longer rides in colder weather.
Enjoy!

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130 Wendy January 2, 2019 at 10:14 pm

Thanks Steve,
I knew you rode and was hoping you would weigh in! If there is snow I also plan to be skiing and really just want the studded tires for when conditions are poor. My main reason for asking was so I didn’t incur the wrath of anyone, I want to play nice in the sandbox!
Where do you access 12 Mile Coulee Trails and Paskapoo Slopes?
Thanks!
Wendy

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131 Steve Riggs January 3, 2019 at 8:21 am

There are lots of access points for both, on bike or by driving.
Trailforks is the best resource:
https://www.trailforks.com/region/paskapoo-slopes/
https://www.trailforks.com/region/12-mile-coulee/

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132 jeff January 3, 2019 at 9:23 am

HI Wendy,
I have basically given up x-country skiing this winter and ride a fat bike all the time now. To answer your question a regular mountain bike with 3″ or less width tires will not do well on any groomed or machine packed surface. But since this year we are talking about little to no snow or mixed riding snow, ice and dirt your studded tires should be fine. Trails that get lots of hiking traffic are also great places to ride as they tend to be packed to concrete. For groomed trails we recommend at minimum 3.8″ tires with 8psi or less. If you have a fat bike in loose snow conditions you can ride as low as 2psi (tubeless recommended). That being said fat tires really don’t float in deep snow and as Steve mentions its more of a struggle than its worth. A 2 psi inflated tire in deep snow will drag like having both breaks on and will sap your energy very quickly. For your hands get a set of pogies.

https://www.amazon.ca/Bar-Mitts-Mountain-Black-Large/dp/B009F9ZQH4/ref=asc_df_B009F9ZQH4/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=292980735072&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5466219252606974713&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001367&hvtargid=pla-451146585796&psc=1

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133 Wendy January 3, 2019 at 3:38 pm

Thanks All for your helpful thoughts and comments! I took my bike in today to get my new studded tires and I’m looking forward to some winter riding. Who knew we would be dealing with spring temperatures in January in Calgary? I’m still doing the snow dance and I’m sure will get some of the white stuff soon.
Wendy

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134 Dean Dolph December 31, 2018 at 11:05 pm

Is goat Creek skiable yet?. Thx

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135 Jenn December 31, 2018 at 5:07 pm

Hello fellow skiers!
Anyone know the ski conditions at Strathmore golf course right now? Looking for a bit of a warmer ski with the pup tomorrow.
Thanks!

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136 Bob Truman December 31, 2018 at 5:11 pm

Jenn, you’re in luck. I just received an update from Ed Meyer who grooms the course. I’ll be posting an update shortly. The news is good!

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137 Jenn December 31, 2018 at 5:28 pm

Awesome Bob! Thanks (and thanks from our pup Bodhi too who will be very happy with a more mild weather ski tomorrow!!). Looking forward to your report.

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138 Mark Trueman December 31, 2018 at 3:24 pm

What ever happened to the Crystal Ridge Nordic Club that used to be based in Okotoks on the location of the Crystal Ridge Golf Course? I’m a relatievrly new resident and frequently use trails on the North side of town at Laudan Park which are town maintained, but Crystal Ridge would have been a great spot to ski.

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139 Mark Trueman December 31, 2018 at 3:20 pm

Has anybody checked out Sandy McNabb recently? Curious of trail conditions.

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140 MaSid December 31, 2018 at 4:09 pm

See the trip report by rose dated dec 29. Sounds like skiing is not the way to enjoy the area currently.

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141 Barb December 28, 2018 at 5:05 pm

Has anyone skied at Mount Shark lately?

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142 paul kim December 27, 2018 at 10:08 am

Hi. I would like to ski at Lake Louise in the evening. I’m a beginner. Would anyone know if it would be a bad idea. My concern is bear and cougar. Thanks.

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143 MaSid December 27, 2018 at 3:25 pm

As a beginner, daylight may be best. But great divide is a reasonable choice for a night ski being Flatish and a nice wide road to let lots of light in if its a clear night. You may or may not need a head lamp. If it’s snowing, even lightly, with a breeze, it can be quite disorienting to the balance with a head lamp (especially modern LED style) with slanting snow. As to bear and cougar, your odds of running into one are low, but possible (not probable) and are likely similar everywhere other than perhaps the most populated spots. Most bears should be napping by now, but doesn’t mean that it’s not posssible. Probably less odds than running across a cougar. We often see cat and wolf tracks on the groomed trails in the winter as they provide an efficiencient means of travel for night hunting and no humans around. If a large noisy group, not much of an issue. If you are travelling solo and are of small stature, the odds go up for both an encounter and an attack. CNC may be a better option as there is now night skiing.

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144 paul December 27, 2018 at 7:24 pm

Thank you for your note, MaSid. I went there and checked it out. Yes…the lamp is a bit disorientating but I didn’t see any cougars or bears. Hope to run into you one day.

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145 Genevieve December 23, 2018 at 4:09 pm

Hello. I’m a newer xc-skier. I have waxless skis. When I bought them the people at MEC waxed them (glide wax on tips and tails I guess). That year and the next I skied on them as they were. A couple weeks ago I took them in to have them waxed again in the same way, thinking this would be a good thing to do. I was able to take last Wednesday off and took the skis for their inaugural trip this season. I went to ski Moraine Lake Road with a friend, who has the same same skis, bought a year later at a different place. He has never put any wax on his skis. As the trip went on I got slower and slower and more and more exhausted and thought I must be really out of shape. However, on the return, which has downhill, my friend was enjoying the ride and I was actually stopping and getting stuck on the downhill. Eventually I thought to look at the bottom of my skis. Both skis had ice stuck behind the fish scales. I scraped it off and glided better for a little while then it iced back up again. This continued for me to the parking lot. Not fun. Did the people who waxed them do something wrong? Or was it just bad luck with the temperature? It was a little +/- 0 all day and snowing. But my friend didn’t have this problem at all. If he had, I’d know it was the temperature. I’m just not sure what to do before I go out again. Perhaps this is a really rookie question. I would appreciate any advice.

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146 Hugh December 23, 2018 at 4:29 pm

Genevieve; It’s a combination of two things:
– 0 degrees and fresh snow, a receipe for icing. (You’re right in you’re assesment)
– Without seeing your skis one can only speculate but there could be some glide wax still on the surface of the ski which caused the icing.
( to be clear when a ski is hotwaxed there should be no wax on the surface but in the pores of the plastic base.)
Try scraping the affected area with a plastic scraper.
There also could be some residual wax in the fish scales clean them out.
We’ve all experienced the frustration of icing skis.I maintain my own skis and have a racing/coaching background. Nothing is more frustrating than icing up.

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147 Genevieve December 24, 2018 at 7:06 pm

Thank you Hugh, for the response. I chose the cheaper machine wax over the hand wax. Maybe next time I’ll spend the extra $. For now I’ll do what you suggest and make sure there is no wax on the surface or in the scales. Hopefully I’ll be gliding well the next time out!

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148 Tawny December 23, 2018 at 10:41 am

Anyone have any Intel on Priddis Greens this year? Are they tracksetting? Has anything happened yet?

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149 glenn hetherington December 23, 2018 at 10:09 am

Anyone skied west bragg creek lately, just wondered what the conditions are like

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150 Alf Skrastins December 23, 2018 at 10:16 am

There has been no snow at WBC for weeks, just Chinook winds. Las track setting was Dec 13 and those tracks are filled with conifer needles, cones and branches. At least 105 downed trees have been removed from the trails.
The snow cover is thin and icy, with bare spots and rocks.
Wait for a substantial snowfall.
On the other hand, the hiking and biking is pretty good.

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151 Paul December 23, 2018 at 8:29 am

Hello,
I would like to ski some easy courses at Peter Lougheed Provincial Park but Google Map doesn’t show how to get there. Could someone tell me if I should just drive south on Highway 40 and then just walk it to get to the easy trails. Thanks.

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152 Bob Truman December 23, 2018 at 8:34 am

Drive south on Hwy 40 for 49K to the barrier. At the barrier, you have to turn right on to Kananaskis Lakes trail. In 2K you’ll reach Pocaterra Hut. There are a number of trailheads for the next 10K including the Discovery Centre, Elkwood Amphitheatre, Boulton Bridge, and Elk Pass. I don’t know your level of ability or fitness, so I’m not sure what you consider easy. If you are referring to a lack of hills, the easiest trail would be Wheeler which is accessed at the Elkwood Amphitheatre parking lot.

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153 paul kim December 23, 2018 at 8:58 am

AWESOME. Thanks Skier Bob

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154 Bob Truman December 23, 2018 at 9:13 am

This is not all-encompassing or 100% accurate, but might be helpful. Trailhead Locations.
It shows William Watson Lodge as a trailhead but that’s pretty near the Elkwood Amphitheatre, which it doesn’t show.
This link is under “Maps” on the main menu.

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155 Martin & Jip December 20, 2018 at 9:00 am

Dang, there’s very little dog friendly skiing available, we’re feeling very left out and badly represented, we need more dog friendly skiing where the good snow is.

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156 Kathryn December 20, 2018 at 8:07 am

Anyone know anything about the cross country conditions in Jasper? Heading there for Christmas and wondering which if any skis I should bring. Thanks for any info !

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157 Diana Piggott December 20, 2018 at 9:27 am

Kathryn, you can check this page: go to “Trail Reports”, click on the Banff site, and then on the left side of the page the other national parks are listed. You can then click on Jasper to find conditions there.
At this point, it looks like they really need more snow 🙁

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158 Kathryn December 21, 2018 at 7:31 am

Thanks Diana .

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159 Michelle December 19, 2018 at 7:31 pm

We are thinking ahead for March break…
The last few years the snow has not been great by end of March for x-country skiing. I’m just curious if the Canmore Nordic Centre typically still has snow for end of March? Since they blow snow I am assuming they would be open later in the season but wanted to see if my assumption is correct.
Thanks!

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160 Rainer Augsten December 16, 2018 at 8:28 am

Does anyone know why the Live Grooming for Canmore Nordic Centre is not up and running?

Rainer

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161 GordN December 10, 2018 at 10:46 pm

Just stumbled across this place not too far from Kamloops.
https://www.overlanderskiclub.com/enjoy-our-trails/
Stake Lake
or here:
https://www.facebook.com/overlanderskiclub/

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162 Barb Banff December 12, 2018 at 7:23 pm

Good – re overlanders
I wondered If it’s open yet?
I’m heading that direction in a few days and was hoping to ski there but couldn’t get details from the website as the weather it’s actually skiable yet?
Thanks

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163 Bob Truman December 9, 2018 at 4:27 pm

Lost and Found

Found one smart phone at West Bragg Creek along Mtn Rd trail about .5km fr warm up hut. Its now in the hut on a shelf. Another great day. -Robert Murray

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164 Kevin Fox December 8, 2018 at 3:12 pm

am visiting Banff and Jasper area in Feb to cross country ski / hike /explore . As far as skiing goes we are looking for 4 or 5 trips that just are top of the list. Figure the best plan is to start with the people who live in this paradise all the time . We are experienced skiers who can probably handle 20km on a trip if its not all uphill. Anyway just some opinions on some great day trips Thanks KF

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165 Bob Truman December 9, 2018 at 9:02 am

I’m not familiar with Jasper so I’ll give you some favourites in Banff/Lake Louise.
Pipestone trails at Lake Louise. Perimeter loop is about 13K.
Moraine Lake road in Lake Louise. 18K return
Redearth Creek in Banff National Park. 22K return
Cascade Valley in Banff National Park 29K return(you can turn around sooner if 29K is too long)
My favourite in Banff is Goat Creek/Spray River West as a 19K one-way trip, mostly downhill from Canmore to Banff.

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166 Kevin Fox December 9, 2018 at 6:16 pm

Thanks Bob I’ll keep those in mind hope to have a great time

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167 Greg Grundberg December 13, 2018 at 9:15 pm

Jasper…Maligne Lake has a few loops, and a hut which you can ski to. Trails are also located in the Athabasca River Valley. Back country skiing is limited (mostly closed) due to Woodland caribou preservation. If you are into track skiing check out the Hinton Nordic Center…about 45 minutes out of Jasper. Bring your skates, snoeshoes for activity at Pyramid Lake and Jasper Park Lodge.

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168 Wendy December 7, 2018 at 6:10 pm

I didn’t know they track set at Bowness Park. Where do you park to access the trails!

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169 Bob Truman December 7, 2018 at 7:02 pm

The ski trail parallels the paved path around the perimeter of the park(sort of). I’ve placed a red arrow on this map of the west end of Bowness Park that shows where I accessed the trail. It’s at the extreme west end of the parking lot and right beside a playground. Bowness map

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170 Wendy December 7, 2018 at 7:08 pm

Thanks Bob! Fingers crossed for some snow soon. Do you know if dogs are allowed on-leash?

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171 Bob Truman December 7, 2018 at 7:16 pm

There were numerous people walking dogs on-leash in the park so I would assume they are allowed.

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172 Wendy December 8, 2018 at 7:07 am

Thanks Bob! We are going to check it out tomorrow. Maybe not on skis with the warmer weather in the forecast but at least a walk to go explore.

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173 Diana Piggott December 8, 2018 at 8:05 am

Take your skis anyway! Bowness Park is a cold, sheltered place which tends to hold the snow better than the more open golf courses.
Also it is a very popular dog-walking place.

174 John Gallagher December 6, 2018 at 1:58 pm

Trail Sports 403 678 6764 would be able to provide lessons for your group.
Check their web site http://www.trailsports.ab.ca

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175 GordN December 6, 2018 at 6:18 am

Seems legit…lol
“Greeting,
I trust that my mail find you well. We intend to book for a winter ski lesson in your resort.
We need to services of professional ski instructors that can handle about 7 people for a private lesson.
Below is the proposed information for our intended training.

NUMBER OF GUESTS: 7 All Adults{ Between the ages of 19 to 25}
RESUMPTION DATE: 1st of March to 7th.{ 7 DAYS}
SKI LEVEL: Beginners

The guests will like to ski in the afternoon between 2 to 4pm daily { 2 hours per session.
Kindly confirm if you can accommodate the guests for the period of 7 days.
Get back to me with your acknowledgement and the total cost for the 7 guests for one week session.
Regards
reply to francisleo3227 gm*il.com aka Graham Burke
sent from faahim.am22 gm*il.com”

Just a heads up, no idea where it’s tracked me from but it’s definitely a hit via skiing I would think. They think I own a ski resort Wonderful news! I shall inform my wife after I reply

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176 GinaV December 5, 2018 at 11:38 am

Has anyone ventured out to Egypt Lake Hut yet this season? Any info on the snow in that area would be appreciated 🙂

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177 Kate December 3, 2018 at 7:54 pm

Has anyone checked out Maple Ridge Golf Course in the past few days?

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178 Cheryl B December 4, 2018 at 10:58 am

I haven’t been there, but noticed this morning that the city website indicated that grooming was suspended until equipment was repaired (they typically groom on Tuesdays when there’s enough snow). It may be skiable, but looks like it won’t be groomed or track set today.

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179 Kate December 5, 2018 at 10:05 pm

Curiosity got me today and I went to check it out. It is groomed and trackset for the majority of the trail.

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180 Michelle December 6, 2018 at 7:21 am

The city usually grooms Maple Ridge on Tuesdays.

The city is considering cutting the funding for grooming at Maple Ridge. Please call 311 to let them know you’d like the grooming to continue!

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181 Jacquie December 3, 2018 at 6:39 pm

If you happened to pick up my turquoise and purple neck-tube at Confederation Golf course on Sunday, I would love to retrieve it.

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182 David November 29, 2018 at 8:54 pm

Does anyone have any idea what Mt Shark is like? Live grooming text is from Nov 21st and says skiing is not recommended due to inconsistent base etc. However, the trail report at albertaparks.ca is from Nov 28th and says “trails generally in good condition”. Maybe they roller packed it and it’s not showing up on live grooming? We’re looking for options for Saturday with kids (strong skiers) and, preferably, dog. Any of you retired/semi-retired folks want to check it out tomorrow? Pretty please? 😉

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183 Janice Chan November 28, 2018 at 3:01 pm

Hi Bob!

My friend and I are interested in an easy, 3-4 hour ski this Saturday, that’s not too far from Calgary (i.e., Great Divide Trail). What trails do you recommend? I’ve read over the trail conditions reports and comments for PLPP and West Bragg, but am not sure which ones might be easier and appropriate. We’d love to get your thoughts. Thank you!

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184 Bob Truman November 28, 2018 at 6:05 pm

If you want 3 hours of easy skiing, the Great Divide is your trail. It’s pretty much the only trail that would fit your criteria right now.

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185 Janice Chan November 29, 2018 at 11:26 pm

Okay, thanks! Do you think it’s too risky to try going to PLPP on Saturday? We’d like to spend some time at the spa in Kananaskis Village after, so we’re thinking Lake Louise might be too far.

I don’t know your level of fitness and ability or your risk tolerance. With the barricade coming down on Dec 1 on Hwy 40, your only option would be Elk Pass. If you’re looking for easy skiing, PLPP would not be recommended until there’s more snow and grooming. We’ve had plenty of trip reports from PLPP, so make sure you read them and make an informed choice. -Bob

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186 Skier B. November 29, 2018 at 11:57 pm

Check out the spa’s Twitter for current wait times. Usually they have wait lists of a few hours on weekends.

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187 Janice November 30, 2018 at 12:12 pm

Thanks so much for your thoughts!!

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188 Herbert Kruschke November 23, 2018 at 11:11 am

Hi:

How far past the gate on Highway 40 is the connector to the Pocaterra Trail? I want to try it this Sunday. Is there something to look for on the side of the road?
Thanks in advance,
Herbert

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189 Bob Truman November 23, 2018 at 11:20 am

Hi Herb, It’s about 10K past the barricade. On the right hand side you’ll see a small parking lot. Ski 650 metres on the access trail to reach Pocaterra.

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190 Danielle Bernadet November 23, 2018 at 9:49 am

hey, I have a group of gals that are keen to have a xc ski outing. I looked through the maps of ski options, but having trouble finding where any warming huts/cabins are. Any recommendations for trails that would have a warming hut/cabin as part of the destination?? Maybe somewhere that would make for a great evening/head lamp ski?

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191 Helen Read November 23, 2018 at 10:43 am

Once Lk O’Hara opens their lodge for the winter (end of January) the Le Relais is open and one can go inside there and start a fire but it is 11 kms up Lk O’Hara Fire Road and past an avalanche path so would not recommend for moonlight ski. Their campground also has an open cooking place but not really a shelter. The ACC huts both there (Elizabeth Parker) and at Elk Lakes (start from Elk Pass parking lot/PLPP) technically need a day pass to use. Both even longer skis in. Bryant Creek Shelter is from Mt Shark area; again a long day ski and should utilize longer daylight hours. The best warming hut in Bow Valley is the one in the Meadow at Canmore Nordic Centre. It stays open until (?) 9pm and even has outdoor nifty toilets and warm inside. Great for night ski and can get 5-7 kms of skiing circuit in. Popular evening pursuit in Canmore. A warming hut on Cascade Fire Road would be a wonderful idea but no such thing exists.

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192 Bob Truman November 23, 2018 at 11:28 am

Back in the day I led moonlight skis for the Calgary Ski Club from Pocaterra Hut. Pocaterra trail is a lot more difficult since the floods, so I don’t know if it would be suitable now. In the near future Pocaterra Hut will be open every day ’til 8 pm. We’re still waiting for more snow so the trails in the area can be groomed. Read more about the hut.

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193 MaSid November 23, 2018 at 8:53 pm

Also a warming hut at west Bragg creek, but it’s at the start point. But plenty of options for doing numerous loops bouncing back to the hut each time. Elk lakes cabin usually has people staying there on weekends, so fairly certain of a warm hut. Its perfect for the day after having pizza at home. Wrap it in tinfoil and throw it on the wood stove while sitting on the porch. Best hot lunch ski day that also gets you skiing from Alberta into BC and back. But long (24k total?), not for the first adventure. 26 k out and back to Bryant creek. We could do with more of these options for sure.

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194 JeremyN November 28, 2018 at 7:06 pm

All great suggestions -especially the pizza oven! Too bad Alberta hasn’t a kind of trail side hut culture as exists in other parts of the world (PQ, NE US, EU of course). It surely gets cold enough here! Doesn’t need to be fancy … really, no more than an shack on skids to rotisserie brown a half-dzn bodies and share in good cheer.

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195 MaSid November 29, 2018 at 1:05 am

Skied to an interesting warming hut outside Nelson BC once. 2×4 A-frame wrapped in plastic with a wood stove inside. A very simple ski club contribution, but not in park land. Got the fire going and kept doing laps, returning to the hut a number of times throughout the day, enjoying it so much I skied back to the car in the dark. No pizza though.

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196 Hugh November 23, 2018 at 8:29 am

It’s great to see folks out skiing. This time of year there is tremendous pressure on the grooming at MLR and Divide. However this comment applies to grooming everywhere.
When the groomer goes past the temptation is to jump into those pristine tracks or skate on the fresh corduroy. It takes time for snow to set up and become firm. It would help with the longevity of the tracks if we all resisted that urge.
It would be great if all ski trails were groomed early in the AM or late in the day when there is less usage to allow for proper setup but especially out at LL grooming happens during the day shift. Sometimes these is no option, but think about it next time you see the groomers.
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197 Wendy November 4, 2018 at 3:47 pm

I’m looking for advice and training tips for skiing with my one yr. old border collie. I’d like to keep her on a waist leash as I don’t want her pulling ahead, but rather following along behind, to keep her away from the business end of ski poles and out of the way when I need to step out of the tracks descending.

Thanks,

Wendy

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198 Martin & Jip November 4, 2018 at 7:33 pm

Best advice I can give is ski with you dog in front where you can see her! Start with very short trips on nice flat well groomed trails and see if you and your dog get along skiing. Do lots of research and don’t forget to have fun.

You could always skiing WBC with your dog off leash if she is reliable.

Mad dogs and Englishmen https://www.maddogsexpeditions.com/adventures/winter/skijoering-tours offer skijoring training with your dog, although I not heard any reviews.

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199 Bob Truman November 5, 2018 at 12:09 pm

How wonderful to have a young, enthusiastic dog to ski with. I’ve discovered that my dog is more likely to run into the tips of my ski poles when she is behind me. I’m with Martin, and think you’ll have more success with the dog in front. I trained Tessa to move over by saying “side” when a skier was coming. Unfortunately, she has recently gone deaf(according to the dog-age calculator, she’s 84 years old, but is still faster than I am!). Border Collies are intelligent and she’ll learn quickly.

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200 Wendy November 5, 2018 at 10:31 pm

Thanks Martin and Bob for your advice, and thank you for Bob for posting the picture of Kazzy and Chris skiing together. That is exactly what I’d like to be able to do with my pup this winter! I enjoy reading Kazzy’s trip reports!
Klara’s recall is very good although I’m not sure it’s totally reliable yet. A rabbit or squirrel would likely send my little rescue pup into full on pursuit. I would hate to see her cause a fall and possibly an injury so I’d like to train her on leash and then work toward off leash when I know I can trust her recall all the time.
Bob, I really like the idea of “side” when a skier is coming toward you, we will work on that and hopefully see you at WBC this winter!

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201 Kazzy November 9, 2018 at 7:08 pm

Hi Wendy, not sure I can offer too much by way of training tips, being an Alaskan Husky aka “sled dog”, it came very naturally to me. I trot along side Chris, who uses a much longer leash than when we’re out walking, and she uses a waist harness. I try to match my speed to hers, and do pretty well on the flats and uphills (though she would like me to pull more on the uphills!) but I like to go really fast on the downhills so she hands me off to my other human, Peter. I sometimes forget not to walk in the tracks, and I have caused a few tumbles, usually by getting a good whiff of squirrel which I can’t resist, and occasionally stopping dead in the tracks if I get in front of Chris causing her to cartwheel over me. So we obviously have more work to do but boy is it fun!

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202 Wendy November 9, 2018 at 8:39 pm

Hi Kazzy!
Thanks for replying to my humans questions about xc skiing. I’m really looking forward to getting out with them this winter. I don’t know if skiing will come naturally for me like it does for you but I do love to run and I have a ton of energy! I’m looking forward to learning how to become a good ski dog. My humans don’t own snowshoes yet, but I think they are going to buy some so we can spend more time together playing in the snow. I hope we see you on the trail sometime this winter!
Klara the Border Collie

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203 Emile October 20, 2018 at 10:45 pm

Hi! Your best destination for XC ski vacation at the end of November? Staying at the same place or to be on the move? 6 nights.
Thanks for helping!

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204 Cheryl B October 1, 2018 at 12:38 pm

Hello everyone – I was unfortunately not able to do any skiing last winter in those fantastic conditions, and had to be satisfied reading about all of your excursions and pics instead (thank you all and especially Bob for sharing your trips and photos). However, it was for a very happy reason at least – I had my first baby last November. Although I’d planned to get out as soon as I could, my body just wasn’t up for it recovering from pregnancy and leaving the newborn for a few hours proved more challenging than I thought. I am very excited to finally get out again this year and introduce my little one to XC skiing for the first time. He will be a year old by the time conditions are good, so I was looking for any advice or tips this wonderful and experienced community can offer about skiing with a baby. I’m not going to invest in a ski pulk yet, just in case he doesn’t enjoy it, so I thought I’d try some short skis initially with him in his MEC baby hiking backpack, and maybe rent a ski pulk a few times if he tolerates it well. I have no clue about trying to ski with a baby, so any advice, tips or experiences you can offer would be greatly appreciated, so I can hopefully help him to enjoy it as much as I do.

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205 David P. October 1, 2018 at 4:50 pm

Congratulations and great to see that you are already thinking about how to get your youngster out on skis. Our kids (11 and 8) have been skiing since they were very small and I have a few random thoughts for you, apologies if these don’t exactly answer your questions:
– A Chariot carrier with skis is very useful for little kids and serves double (or triple) duty as a stroller and bike trailer. Unlike pulks, the skis sit outside of the track so you aren’t ruining the grooming for other people (not an issue with firm machine grooming like the Nordic Centre). Also the straps and ‘rollcage’ provide good protection – I have a vivid memory of a laughing two year-old after a massive wipeout on the old Sawmill trails!
– That being said, in the longer term we have found that a pulk is the more versatile choice because they are more stable in mixed conditions and on backcountry trails (Boom Lake, etc.). They also hold more stuff and can be used for gear (hut trips) once the kids are skiing independently.
– We don’t have much experience using the baby backpack in the winter – just a little snowshoeing. I know some people who ski with these and enjoy having their kid closer and with a better view. Reducing the risk of a crash and making sure junior is warm would be the main concerns.
– On the subject of warmth, we always carried those little chemical hand warmers for emergencies but usually found that a good snowsuit and mitts was enough. Nevertheless, it’s important to check hands, feet, and especially cheeks regularly!
– The plastic skis that strap over winter boots might be good for very simple introductory skiing and help little ones get excited about snow. However, proper bindings and boots make a big difference even at an early age and there are lots of ski swaps around town.
– We really enjoyed the Nordic Centre – two different places to warm up, consistently good grooming, and a tobogganing option on site were a winning combination for us.
– Bringing friends is also key – even now, our kids go twice as far, twice as fast with friends!
– When your kid is a little older (4) try a program with a club – high quality Bunny/Jackrabbit programming made a huge difference for our kids’ skills and motivation.

I think I’ve digressed into stuff that’s not going to be relevant for you for a couple of years! Like everything else in parenting, there’s no one right way – this is just my two cents. Enjoy his first proper winter!

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206 Cheryl B October 2, 2018 at 11:17 am

Thanks for the info! That is indeed very helpful. Just wondering though, do ski pulks mess up the track setting? I was looking at one that said it was designed to fit into standard tracks. Still not sure about spending all that money on it for such a short time period we’d be using it though. We already have a bike trailer and separate strollers so getting a Chariot that does all 3 functions now would be an additional expense my husband won’t agree to. Used ones at a reasonable cost seem to be pretty rare (I’ve been keeping my eyes open for them on Kijiji frequently).

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207 David October 2, 2018 at 1:20 pm

They’ll mess the track up depending on a number of variables – mainly firmness of the track setting, the weight in the pulk, and the pulk design. At the Nordic centre I’ve never seen ours leave a mark. At Peter Lougheed I’ve often had to ski up the middle between the tracks.

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208 Cheryl B October 2, 2018 at 4:12 pm

Good to know – I never want to be the one to mess up the track setting. The Nordic Centre sounds like a good choice for trying it out. Oddly enough, I’ve never skied there (only biked) since there’s so many other free options to ski. However, I bet the nice solid tracksetting is worth it. I may rent a ski pulk at some point to try it out if the baby backpack doesn’t work. I’ve skied with a heavy pack before, but not one that pulls my hair and shifts around on its own…It’s been a long time since I’ve wiped out in non-icy conditions, but a squirmy passenger could certainly change that 🙂 It will certainly require being way more careful.

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209 Meredith R. October 2, 2018 at 10:09 am

Hi Cheryl – Congrats on the new baby! You should check out the Hamax Outback. It is a multi-sport stroller that has ski attachments but also functions as a stroller, bike trailer, and even jogging stroller. It would be a great way to introduce your son to cross-country skiing. Hope you are able to get outside this season!

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210 Jenn September 28, 2018 at 4:16 pm

Hello
Looking for a great recommendation on ski groups.
I’m a 40 something recreational intermediate skier based in Calgary. I’m not fast nor am I competitive but I love getting out for a good 15km ish (longer is fun too) classic ski or to be pushed on the skate skis for an hour or so.
I’m looking to join a fun, non-competitive yet sporty group (organized or not) that skis primarily Sundays and possibly even some weekdays (I’m a nurse so have a fluctuating schedule). Favourite ski spots would be West Bragg and Kananaskis.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated-thanks!
Jenn

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211 GordN April 30, 2018 at 6:58 pm

Who’d have thunkit! A CC trail system near Oliver and Osoyoos…

http://mckinneynordicskiclub.com/

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212 Keith April 30, 2018 at 9:55 pm

There are 9km of groomed cross country ski trails and approximately 5km of marked snowshoe trails.
I would be afraid of getting lost!

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213 HenryL April 18, 2018 at 8:59 am

Can anyone help me reconcile information in the PLPP live grooming map versus table?

The table shows no grooming/tracksetting newer than Apr14, but there are several “green” trails on the map, indicating 1 day old grooming/tracksetting.

Is the map perhaps no longer updated?

Thanks.

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214 Danielle April 9, 2018 at 4:36 pm

Did anyone find a skin on Elk Pass trail April 8th? Came off my ski between 1-3pm somewhere before the junction with Highline and tyrwhitt, wasn’t aware they we attached by magnet and could just come off!
If found please contact or return to The Norseman. Thanks very much

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215 Keith April 9, 2018 at 6:41 pm

Check at Pocaterra Hut – many lost and found items are left there on the counter by the entry.
Good luck!

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216 Dennis April 6, 2018 at 3:09 pm

Hi folks,

How much use will I get out of AT skis around Skoki Lodge? i.e., turns?

Just booked Skoki for tomorrow night. I’ve been there several times, always on my (very) skinny skis. Despite the good advice and many thumbs up for getting some light touring skis (comments string from March 15, 2014, below), I still have only the same old racing skis. (Getting out quite a bit less since that season.)

But I just outfitted with the full light-ish AT kit (G3 Synapse, tech bindings) including avi stuff. I ‘m thinking I’ll use it for Skoki tomorrow just for a change. I haven’t seen much terrain on my trips to and around Skoki that cried out for AT, but I wasn’t really looking for it either. (Apart from turns, the 101 mm skis would be a lot better for another run at the natural bridge!)

So I think I just persuaded myself to take the ATs. But I’d still be interested in thoughts from the many very experienced (yet youthful! 🙂 ) readers and posters here.

Thank you.

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217 Dennis April 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm

PS: I just saw Chuck’s Skoki Grand Tour posting from a few years ago. Wow!! I have to do it. Maybe next weekend. It’s reason enough to get out and buy that BC gear finally! (Still plan to get some anyway.)

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218 Dennis April 6, 2018 at 3:17 pm

PS2: I might stay Sunday night too, if they will allow me to book it while I am there. So comments about terrain can consider that I would have a layover day in addition to ski-in, ski-out.

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219 Chuck April 6, 2018 at 6:53 pm

Hi Dennis,
My thought is that if you take AT Gear you can find good turns, but check out the newly updated avalanche rating first. As you already know, skinny skis can work for a single day trip in and out. Light Touring skis are the best all round option, and would allow you to enjoy the many tours in the area, including the Natural Bridge.
Is it too late for you to rent Light Touring?
Might see you out there!

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220 Dennis April 7, 2018 at 7:49 am

Thank you, Chuck. I’m off with the AT skis and blue wax to start. I hope to get the light touring kit and try your Skoki Grand Tour next weekend.

Enjoy your tours this weekend!

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221 Gord March 28, 2018 at 10:06 pm

Anyone been snowshoeing near/to Commonwealth Lake recently?

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222 Alf Skrastins March 29, 2018 at 12:41 am

I skied to Commonwealth Lake / Pigs Back about a week ago. Good trail to the lake. Lots of snow.

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223 Gord March 29, 2018 at 5:52 am

Great! Thank you!

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224 W March 29, 2018 at 7:56 am

Where is the trail head for Commonwealth Lake? Is it accessible on light touring gear? Thanks!

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225 Bob Truman March 29, 2018 at 8:04 am

Trailhead is on the Mt Shark road, on your left, no more than a kilometre up from Mt Engadine Lodge. The parking lot has always been plowed when I’ve driven by.

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226 Gord March 29, 2018 at 8:41 am

Although it’s a snowshoe book, Andrew Nugara has it in his book (at the Calgary Library) and I’ve seen some GPS tracks and trip reports on the net.

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227 W March 29, 2018 at 3:28 pm

Thank you, I’m going to try and get there before the snow all melts away this year.!

228 Barbara B. March 23, 2018 at 12:22 am

SKI STORAGE: For years I’ve only had waxable skis, which I had hot waxed (but not scraped off) before storing the skis for summer. This winter I got a pair of light touring skis with fish scales and am wondering what can be applied to protect those over the summer. Any thoughts? I think I had read somewhere that people have applied Vaseline; that seems like one nice mess.

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229 Mike W March 23, 2018 at 8:34 pm

I use a universal paste glide wax (liquid would work too) over the entire length of my Fish Scale and Crown skis, both for when I ski on them and when I store them for the summer. Apply the paste wax and polish it in the direction from tip to tail so you don’t end up with globs of wax stuck in the grip pattern.

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230 Larissa March 16, 2018 at 12:59 pm

Has anyone skied anywhere in Calgary since yesterday’s snow fall? If so, where at and what were the conditions like?

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231 RM March 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm

I found a womens dark blue full zip Lulu Lemon sweat shirt at the 5km picnic table on the way into Lake O’hara on Sunday March 11th. Let me know via this comment section if it is yours and I will get it back to you. Cheers!

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232 Ashley March 11, 2018 at 5:07 pm

Hi there,
Wondering if anyone has skied Elk Pass to Elk Lake Cabins as of late – looking for conditions and tracking info – Whether to use back country XC skies or Classic Wax XC skies.
Skiing in a couple weeks – so any info is appreciated – TIA

Ashley

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233 Jonathan March 11, 2018 at 9:22 pm

Hi Ashley

We went into the cabin yesterday and came out today. Conditions were pretty good and we had no trouble with Classic Wax XC skis. It was warm and sunny today, but SkiGo HF red worked great the whole way. Skier set tracks were well established.

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234 Ashley March 12, 2018 at 7:46 am

Thanks Jonathan,

Much appreciated – went out yesterday at Shag and it was quite warm … Looking forward to skiing into the cabins next week.

Cheers!

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235 GordN March 10, 2018 at 4:46 pm

New one I stumbled across….

“Nordiculous.”

As quoted by ppl skiing at Whistlers lesser known neighbour Callaghan Country

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236 Heather March 8, 2018 at 11:58 am

Posted this on the wrong page, so copying here…apologies!

I live in Ontario, but originally from Alberta. Winter decided to disappear here, and so I thought, “good time for a trip home to visit the family and ski in Canmore.” The long range forecast looked promising. But I know exactly what can happen. So I took the risk…

So evidently temps are going to spike next week, just in time for me to come out. How does Canmore Nordic usually fare in these situations? I assume they have great grooming and can stretch things out…? I’m cool with spring skiing (although this would really be spring skiing). At this point, I’ll ski in slush if I have to. Would complement the ice I’m skiing on here at the moment.

Sigh. This winter just will not stop being a jerk.

Thanks for any insight!

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237 Mark March 8, 2018 at 6:20 pm

You should be able to find good tracks at the Nordic Centre on the main trails that are groomed frequently.
Check the live grooming reports (top of this page) the day-of for fresh tracks in Peter Lougheed, which should be ok if they haven’t gone through the freeze/thaw of tracks a few days old. Trails toward the south tend to do better during the wam spells.
Lake Louise looks like it might be alright weather-wise, but the grooming reports aren’t as up to date as the places that use the live grooming app.
Waxless, skin, or zero skis will give you less grief if the tracks aren’t really glazed from freeze/thaw cycles.

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238 Heather March 9, 2018 at 9:08 am

Thanks Mark! Much appreciated.

I think I just needed reassurance that I’ll still probably be able to ski…:)

The weather reports are all over the place – different sources show a 10 degree difference in forecasts, which tells me no one really knows what’s going to happen. (Not that they ever do).

Fingers crossed, and happy skiing!

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239 cd March 2, 2018 at 7:36 pm

Bob, et al

i’m looking to pick up a new pair of skis, thinking end of season to save some $. any ideas? do certain retailers have regular end of season sales?

cd

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240 Eric R March 3, 2018 at 7:40 am

trail sports at the canmore nordic just started their sale on new skies and stuff.
sport experts start their sale easter weekend.
for MEC I put things I want on my wish list and start checking for sales soon.

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241 GordN March 3, 2018 at 5:40 pm

Monitor the front page of this site, eg I see over here —–>
Lifesport has a March sale for a few more days

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242 Pierre Lamoureux, St. Paul, AB March 1, 2018 at 6:58 pm

Hi everybody. I would like to ski a double-header at PLPP- Kananaskis Lakes on Saturday, March 3 and the LL Loppet on Sunday , March 4 this weekend. Does anyone know if the trails will be track set at Kananaskis Lakes by Saturday? Are the conditions down there actually as good as reports last week said they are?
The 7 hour drive from NE Alberta to the Bow River corridor is a long way to go…

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243 Bob Truman March 1, 2018 at 7:10 pm

There’s plenty of snow with more on the way. Some grooming will occur in PLPP tonight, Friday night and Saturday morning but with the ongoing snowfall, you’ll probably have fresh snow in the tracks. The crews usually finish grooming around 5-6 a.m., so if you want to get out there really early…

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244 Gord March 1, 2018 at 5:15 pm

Does anyone know where to find the condition of the XC trails in Fish Creek Park.

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245 Bohdan March 1, 2018 at 12:50 pm

I recently purchased a pair of Atomic Motion Skintec skis. I have been happy overall with them until yesterday.
I am a retired recreational skier that is trying to improve my striding technique. I often ski without poles assisting me in order to improve my stride. My goal is fitness and enjoyment.

I am 6 feet tall and I weigh 100kg (220lbs) without ski clothes, boots etc. The Motion Skintec are 204cm Xtrastiff with weight range of 90-110kg.

I ski in Gatineau Park on the groomed trails at the end of the day. (Mostly between P8 and P9). Up until yesterday, I had been happy overall with the skis. I have not been as fast as other skiers who are skiing on waxed skis. Normally, I can run/stride uphill with limited glide (without poles). I am pleased with the downhill glide performance overall – again not as good glide as others on wax skis.

Here is my problem/question:
Currently we are experiencing a spring melt with daytime temps of 5 and nighttime of -5. The tracks are well travelled by the end of day and mostly smoothed over and glazy when I go out at nightfall.
Yesterday, I had variable grip/kick. Mostly, the the grip was limited and I would slide-out on my kick. I had to use my poles to assist me, particularly on the uphill. (There were times where the grip/kick was OK – but not in the main)

I was very disappointed in my performance with the skis yesterday. I do not know whether it was the skis (too stiff) or my technique. Are there conditions where the Skintecs just don’t work well?

Any help advice, knowledge, experience would be appreciated !!

BG

BTW: I took my skis to purchase/mount bindings on the Atomics to my local highly respected Cross Country Ski Shop (That is all they deal with in the winter – where I normally make all my purchases, were sold out of Skintecs) evaluated my Atomics with me and said they would probably be too much on the “Soft” side ??

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246 Hugh March 9, 2018 at 9:37 am

Skiing at the end of the day after lots of traffic and cooling temps is a challenge regardless of wax or no wax skis. Skin skis regardless of name brand aren’t perfect. We ski at the Canmore Nordic Centre a lot . Especially close to the stadium in high traffic areas our Skintecs require some thought when kicking. It gets better further away in lower traffic areas.
As far as technique, I’ve given up trying to improve by skiing without poles. I think it’s a waste of time for me. What I do while skiing is I “Look Ahead” I look 30-50’ down the track and think of putting my nose over the track I’m gliding on. Very subtle left to right shift. I don’t think of kicking. I bring my back leg though past the gliding foot. Looking ahead improves balance allowing you to glide on one ski longer and bring the other foot through. In Yoga it’s called as Drishti point. Since all your weight is on the gliding ski you can kick and don’t slip back. Full disclosure here: I was a CANSI instructor from the very beginning. I’ve taught all the tricks and drills to get better weight shift, set you wax, yadda, yadda. I no longer think of all those points I “look ahead” Good Luck!

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247 Nancy February 28, 2018 at 1:41 pm

Does anyone know what the x-country ski conditions are for the Rundle Riverside Trail that runs from the Canmore Nordic Centre to Banff (Banff Springs Hotel)? I’m hoping to try it out tomorrow (March 1).
Thanks
Nancy

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248 Barb banff February 24, 2018 at 3:06 pm

Does anyone know what Lake Ohara is like now?
And what day I see it regularly trackset? I searched this site and found ‘weds’ from 2013. Thursday or Friday?
Txs!

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249 Henry L February 21, 2018 at 9:12 am

Gold medal for U.S. wax technician at sprint relay race!

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250 Henry L February 13, 2018 at 11:59 am

My jaw dropped when I saw young Johannes Klaebo ascend the hill that has now been nicknamed in his honour at the Olympic classic sprint course venue.

He would do a great Red Bull ad. (it gives him wings!!!)

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251 barb banff February 13, 2018 at 8:52 am

Banff Park trail reports?.?.
Does anyone know what’s happened- any grooming?
How come all the other jurisdictions can manage reports in a timely manner?
Anyone have inside scoop?
Thanks

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252 Bob Truman February 13, 2018 at 8:19 pm

I’ve contacted Greg Danchuk, Banff’s Visitor Experience Manager about this. He replied and said he’ll look into it.

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253 barb banff February 13, 2018 at 8:55 pm

thanks for that. i heard a rumor today that the Cascade
was set Sunday! and went to spray west late today for a look. Set

since big snow, a worn wobbly track remains.

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254 Bob Truman February 14, 2018 at 11:34 am

Banff trail report has been updated. Cascade and Bankhead were trackset yesterday (13th).

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255 Mike W February 12, 2018 at 9:15 pm

While skiing trackset at West Bragg today, the snow appears to be packed/groomed for 40-50cm to the outside of the outer ski track, but often if I planted my outside pole more than 10cm from the outer track, it would go right through the snow pack to the ground. I’ve experienced the same thing in many other XC ski areas as well. Anyone know why that is?

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256 Groomer Jeff February 13, 2018 at 7:23 am

Hi Mike,
It’s a great question and often comes up. The grooming equipment that we have at our disposal does not allow for much compaction at the periphery of a pass. We pull a device known as a Ginzu Groomer. It can compact and renovate snow and also lays classic tracks with 250 lbs of down pressure. Unfortunately, the outboard 30 cm of the groomer is designed to be soft and malleable, so that it won’t break should it run in to an obstacle. The floppiness of the mat that lays corduroy at the periphery of the trail is what causes soft pole plants. There is not enough weight over the mat in this area to compact the snow enough to get a reasonable density to support pole plants.
The problem is compounded when we attempt to widen a trail to accommodate different user groups. If we laid classic tracks right up the middle of any of our trails, soft pole plants would not be an issue. This is not a practical solution however, so we are at the mercy of time and multiple passes of grooming to get the snow to a firmer density.
The positive side of this is that it helps us coach our young athletes to avoid ‘tenting’ their poles and keep their pole plants as vertical as possible to maximize their efficiency!
Hope this helps.

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257 Mike W February 13, 2018 at 12:38 pm

Thanks for the reply Jeff. And when I posted my question, I had a sneaking suspicion that the groomers were conspiring to improve everyone’s pole plant technique! 😉

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258 Bob Truman February 11, 2018 at 8:50 pm

Does anyone know of a way to release an automatic binding which is very stiff? Jackie has sent an email asking for help. When she falls, she can’t push it down with enough pressure to release the boot.

“The binding is Rottefella Touring. We’ve put WD 40 on the metal parts which makes the mechanism a bit more flexible, but still when I’m down on the ground, if I use my pole to press on the indented release mechanism, I don’t have enough leverage to release it. That’s why I thought there might be a trick or a gadget that would help.”
Photo of binding
Photo2

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259 pat davis February 12, 2018 at 9:52 am

I have HEARD that a silicone sp[ray might help if it is water getting in and freezing. otherwise? I have the same problem with an old backcountry NN and usually have to slip out of the boot at day’s end.
If you got the binding at MEC, I’d contact them. Otherwise??

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260 Mark February 12, 2018 at 10:21 am

When you’re on the ground and pushing against the release with a pole, the tendency would be to counter the pressure from the pole by pulling up with your foot. This would increase the forces (and friction) on the binding and make it more difficult to release. I this situation I usually have to reach down and release the binding with my thumb on the release button and fingers wrapped around the bottom of the ski.

Pat’s reply sounds like it may have been a similar issue. Some bindings (or if there’s a snow buildup under your boot) benefit from applying pressure into the binding through your toe, like the same force you would apply when stepping in. This takes some of the upward force off the clips and allows them to release.

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261 Pete February 12, 2018 at 12:29 pm

WD40 and silicon lubricant might help temporarily but won’t last long with the binding being constantly exposed to water. I’ve used lithium grease in a spray can which doesn’t wash out and will last a lot longer. You can buy it at Rona or the Home Depot. Just spray it in and work the mechanism until it operates smoother. You may also have strong springs that require more force to compress so try leaning on your pole harder next time.

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262 Mike W February 13, 2018 at 12:46 pm

If none of the above works and you decide to get new bindings, I’d get manual ones. All too often I’ve seen automatic bindings freeze or get stuck for some other reason in the open or closed position. In one case, my ski partner had to leave her boot attached to the ski at the end of the day because the binding refused to release!

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263 alf February 11, 2018 at 3:53 pm

Where can I find up to date information on Grooming conditions for Shaganapi golf course? Any been since the snow fall Saturday night, Feb 10th 2018?

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264 Bob Truman February 11, 2018 at 4:01 pm

No doubt you’ve checked the Trail Reports link on my blog for Shaganappi, but as we can see, it hasn’t been updated although I imagine grooming has occurred. Alasdair Fergusson from the Calgary Ski Club sends me an email, usually within 24 hours of grooming, and I post it on the Groomer’s Reports. I haven’t had anything since the recent snowfall. I don’t know of any other place to get the information.

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265 cjw February 7, 2018 at 2:14 pm

Astro report for just about everywhere besides Priddis. Hope this helps.

http://www.cleardarksky.com/csk/index.html#chart_list

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266 cjw February 7, 2018 at 1:43 pm

Consider for forecasts. Though limited, lots of data…

http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/RothneyALkey.html?1

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267 Henry L February 7, 2018 at 4:52 pm

We amateur astronomers use Clear Dark Sky all of the time, but there are caveats. The data isn’t updated very often during the day, so you can get some surprises. Otherwise, a very nice tool.

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268 GordN February 6, 2018 at 5:42 pm

Noting Jean-Francois Richy’s Village area report, how far can one go on Marmot now? Anyone ventured in?

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269 Jeff February 12, 2018 at 10:09 am

Hi Gord,
The first 1km was completely wiped out in the 2013 flood. I have hiked through the worst of it a few times. You can go all the way around but it would be like skiing through the rock garden at Lake Louise when there is no snow. I would suggest snowshoes for the bottom wiped out section then skis afterwards,

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270 GordN February 12, 2018 at 10:10 am

Thanks Jeff, I was wondering the same thing, a combo idea!

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271 Courtney February 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm

Sandy McNabb – does anyone know if the recent snowfall was good there? The live grooming report says it hasn’t been groomed for over a month, can that be right?? The last comments were from Feb 1, before the snowstorm. I’d like to try something new, but maybe I should go to West Bragg to be safe.

Courtney

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272 Alf Skrastins February 5, 2018 at 10:43 pm

Don’t know about Sandy McNabb, but the West Bragg Creek trails are good now.

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273 Courtney February 6, 2018 at 8:12 am

Thanks, Alf!

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274 Judy Reside February 4, 2018 at 11:02 am

Anybody know if either Shaganappi or Mapleridge trails have been groomed since yesterday’s snowfall?

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275 Courtney February 5, 2018 at 9:56 pm

As of 5:00 pm today, Maple Ridge had not been groomed.

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276 joe February 2, 2018 at 7:09 pm

I thought it would be cool to hear about people’s apres ski routines. After a few hours skating the awesome trails we are fortunate to have in southern Alberta, I have a particular routine I follow afterwards: gear down, stretch, hydrate, drive home or to the pub, down a couple of beers, feast on a burger, then hit the tub for an epsom salt bath. Oh, and nothing is better than a nice sleep-in the next morning to recover. What is your apres ski tradition?

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277 Helen Read February 2, 2018 at 8:22 pm

Finish drinking my big thermos of tea while driving home from ski. take skis out for the next waxing job in garage. Remove outer ski pants and drape on stairs, rang up everything else for wearing next day. Hit computer for conditions via weather stations, write and check all trip/backcountry reports on skierBob, review my current “ski to do ” list, email friends who might be interested for next day/s ski outings, refill lunch bag, prep thermos for next day’s tea, make supper with or without beer/wine, watch 10:30 CTV news and hit the sack! This routine will be followed until I hang up my skis on April 1st, and that is no April Fool’s joke! (unless I injure myself before that date, which happened last Spring).

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278 Clae February 2, 2018 at 8:23 pm

After a typical ski around Ribbon Cr or PLPP I head back to our campsite at Mt Kidd. Stretch, start a fire in fire pit and down a couple of beers to hydrate : ) and retire to the camper van , have supper and add up the km’s I had just skied. Life is good in the mountains!!!

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279 sheila February 2, 2018 at 10:50 pm

Arrive home. Ignore housework, laundry, texts from anyone other than kids, and jump into hot tub, very carefully as I am holding a 9 oz. glass of wine. Discuss with my beloved what we should (he should) make for dinner, check Skierbob website to make sure all is well with the trail reports, (once out of hot tub, of course), do my best to stay up till 9, boot Bob (the dog, people, let’s not start rumors) off my side of the bed, then fall into a blissful slumber. I love retirement!

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280 Henry L February 3, 2018 at 9:57 am

You youngsters!

For me, it’s a walk home from Lake Louise, only to find that the roof of my cardboard abode in the back alleyway of Market Mall is sagging with ice. After propping it up, having a cold snow bath, and gnawing on a few chicken bones, I brush my teeth with salt and hit the coal sack.
At 4am my wife kicks me out into the snow and I start all over again. First stop is Tim Hortons, where I chew coffee grounds from their morning garbage.

Agh, you kids these days have it easy.

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281 Aldona February 1, 2018 at 6:13 pm

Another question from the Saskatchewan skiers – can anyone provide us with a trail report for Mount Shark. We are planning to go tomorrow but have heard conflicting reports on conditions. Three years ago our 2 buses had to retreat to the CNC due to icy conditions at Shark and we are hoping not to have to do that again. We understand that it is usually groomed on Thursdays – can anyone confirm this? Any information would be greatly appreciated- thanks!

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282 Diana Piggott February 1, 2018 at 6:30 pm

Mt Shark access just fine, especially from south, but grooming is long overdue! We broke trail around yellow 10 km loop yesterday and it was rather slow going.

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283 Bob Truman February 1, 2018 at 6:51 pm

Aldona, I expect Mt Shark will be groomed tonight but to be sure, check the Live Grooming Report in the morning. http://skitrails.info/report/mtshark

You won’t encounter icy conditions anywhere right now, but you might have a bit of fresh snow on the new grooming.

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284 Bob Truman February 2, 2018 at 7:44 am

Aldona,
Mt Shark was groomed and trackset last night. The report mentions the area received about 1 cm of snow to 6:30 a.m. so the tracks may have a bit of fresh snow in them. Have fun!

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285 Aldona February 1, 2018 at 5:39 pm

We are a group from Regina on our annual ski trip to the mountains and a few of us are hoping to ski Goat Creek from Canmore to Banff on Sunday. Although we have all done this (and are aware of the tricky approach to the bridge) it has been several years since conditions have permitted us to do it. We have read the last report from January 27 which sounds promising but with the recent and yet to come snowfall we are wondering if anyone can advise us if there is a site to check on grooming and tracksetting. Also we Saskatchewanians would be most grateful if anyone who does this on Friday or Saturday could post a trail report here. Thanks!

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286 Bob Truman February 1, 2018 at 7:04 pm

There’s 15 cm of snow in the forecast for Saturday, and more on Sunday, so I doubt that you will have any new tracksetting by Sunday morning. It’s always possible the Banff tracksetter will choose to do Spray River and Goat Creek on Sunday but chances are the trail will be covered with a lot of fresh snow.

Tomorrow would be the day to do it because Spray River West was trackset today(that covers the final 9.9K) and Goat Creek(the first 9K of your trip) is skiable. You can check for grooming updates here http://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/tcond/cond_E.asp?oPark=100092

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287 Aldona February 1, 2018 at 8:26 pm

Thanks for that Bob. Looks like we’ll do Mount Shark tomorrow and try Goat Creek Saturday morning – hoping the heavier snow will hold off till later Saturday. Nice to have this forum!

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288 RickB February 1, 2018 at 2:42 pm

Yesterday, while people in Calgary were in the cold and gloom, I was skiing in the sunshine at PLPP! . It was -8 and calm when I started out at 11:30 from the visitor centre and -5 with some wind at 3:30. Rode blue multigrade worked well for the first half but later was a little slippy. Beautifully fast trackset between KVC and Bolton (lots of double poling) but the rest over Elk Pass was skier tracked in about 10 cm of snow. A great day to be in the mountains.

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289 Jenn January 31, 2018 at 9:39 pm

Hi all- just looking for clarification. I had posted a trail report for WBC and mentioned we had skate skied loggers trail. There was a reply saying loggers is not a skate trail and that we were ruining the tracks. The trail was definitely wide enough for us to be skating without dipping into the classic tracks and we certainly saw other skate tracks. And with the recent conditions the skating was much better than classic. So….is skate skiing allowed on Loggers trail? Thanks!

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290 Steve February 1, 2018 at 11:11 am

http://braggcreektrails.org/files/WBC-WEB-Full-20161119.pdf

According to the official map the skate skiing trails are: Hostel Meadow, Mountain Road, Moose Connector, East and West Crystal Lines (except for middle and the links) and Sundog Loop. Logger’s appears to be classic only.

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291 Jenn February 1, 2018 at 12:17 pm

Thanks Steve! Good for me to know for future skis

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292 Mike W February 1, 2018 at 7:05 pm

I’m a 90% classic / 10% skate skier. As per Steve’s reply earlier today, GBCTA designates several trails for both classic and skate skiing (including Sundog, but not Logger’s). But it’s unclear whether skate skiing is specifically prohibited on other trails. Clearly one should avoid skating across classic tracks, which would damage them. This applies even on the trails that are designated for both skate and classic. But is there a problem with skating on classic trails as long as you don’t damage the tracks? It’s possible to restrict your skate stride so you don’t cross the tracks. For many trails, you’d have to restrict you stride so much that it would be a waste of time to try to skate them. Some trails, like Loggers and Mountain View, are wide enough that’s it quite feasible to skate without touching the tracks. And just because you’re on skate skis, it doesn’t mean you’re always skating. I was on skate skis on Mountain View yesterday (West to East) and double-poled virtually all of it.

But what it comes down to is this: Is skate skiing specifically prohibited on WBC classic trails? Anyone have an official answer?

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293 TZ January 30, 2018 at 4:18 pm

Hello Dean,

Allison Creek is a fun trail system when the snow is good. It is managed by the Crowsnest Nordic Ski Club and it looks pretty good now.
http://www.allisonwonderlands.ca/report_detail.php

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294 Dean January 31, 2018 at 10:49 am

Thanks!!

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295 Dean January 30, 2018 at 2:10 pm

Hello skiers…wondering if anyone has been to the Allison-Chinook Lake ski trails near Coleman lately, or if anyone knows where to find information on conditions there. I’ve been up there in summer and the trail system looks like it would be fantastic.

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296 pat davis January 30, 2018 at 7:42 am

In this site’s trip reports, I keep reading about people meeting Skier Bob on the trails, but I have skied in PLPP for years and to my knowledge I have never seen him. I am wondering how you know if you do meet him. Does he ski with a banner waving behind him saying, “Skier Bob is here”? Does he employ minions to ski ahead holding signs that say, “Here comes Skier Bob”? Is there a secret Skier Bob Society whose members greet each other on the trail with secret code words. I need help here, people. The suspense is getting to me.

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297 Helen Read January 30, 2018 at 8:24 am

You likely ski far too early in the day to run into Bob because he can often be found in parking lots starting to ski around 1pm. He has an identifiable toque which reads “Ski Here”. Ski Here was the previous name of this blog. Before he got Cortisone for his shoulder, he was skiing using only one pole but glad to hear he took on those hills at Redearth yesterday (in search of gnomes, snow fairies, and dragons) using two poles. He does love Goat Creek to Banff so perhaps after the next dump up there, you can be waiting at Banff West Spray parking lot for him with a lunch invitation to Silver Dragon Buffet.

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298 pat davis January 30, 2018 at 8:28 am

Okay, thanks, Helen. I feel much more informed and will be able to sleep better tonite.

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299 pat davis January 31, 2018 at 7:47 am

I had envisioned Bob wearing a superhero costume with SB on the front and a red cape flowing out behind. Reality pal;es in comparison… unless he can be talked into that???

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300 GordN January 30, 2018 at 9:01 am

I know how you feel, Bob and I have conversed for years electronically but never connected in the wild. One day while out with most of my ski family (Dad, Bro, Daughter) there he was! I rest better now too. I often wonder if his skis are many more hours for all the stopping to chat he must do

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301 barb banff January 29, 2018 at 7:46 pm

Anyone know what happened to the LIVE GROOMING REPORT for CNC?.
Hasn’t been updated foe at least 4 days.

Thanks
Barb

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302 Bob Truman January 30, 2018 at 8:57 am

The CNC trail report indicates “Live Grooming currently not working or updating!” but they don’t say why.

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303 Kelli Payne January 28, 2018 at 9:25 pm

Does anyone know of a shuttle service that would pick us up in Banff and take us to the Goat Creek parking lot so we could ski to our car back in Banff? I only see Bike ‘n Hike for the summer.
Thanks.

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304 Richard Thom January 26, 2018 at 9:05 pm

Just skied Crystal Line West and Moose Connector at West Bragg this morning 26 Jan). Pretty icy and minimal control going down the steeper hills. I don’t recommend this area until there’s a good snowfall.

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305 Todd January 26, 2018 at 4:08 pm

Found Garmin watch last Thursday evening (Jan 18) on Confederation Golf Course driving range. Let me know if it might be yours.

Thanks

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306 Denis Khrustalev January 25, 2018 at 8:46 pm

Hello XC-skiers!

I’ve never been at any Peter Lougheed PP ski trails before and plan my trip on coming week-end. I found the map and details of trails, BUT couldn’t find any mentions about trails suitable for skate style there?

Can you please educate me which trails can be used for SKATE XC-skiing as I am not a classic-style skier at all. Thank you in advance!

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307 Bob Truman January 25, 2018 at 9:11 pm

Peter Lougheed PP has no trails designated or groomed for skate skiing. There are a number of other venues with skate ski trails http://skierbob.ca/skate-ski-trails/

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308 Denis Khrustalev January 25, 2018 at 9:38 pm

Thank you for a prompt response, Bob!
It is a pity, there is no skate loop within PLPP. Anyway, I will try other locations!
Have a rewarding workout!

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309 Diana Piggott January 23, 2018 at 9:21 pm

Now I have a question: is there any sort of ski trail now from Baker Creek to Morant’s Curve? I thought I heard rumours earlier this year……
By the way, could we get them to remove some trees to restore the view of the railway??

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310 Keith January 23, 2018 at 10:38 pm

Not likely to happen in Banff National Park!

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311 Chuck January 24, 2018 at 7:04 am
312 Diana Piggott January 24, 2018 at 7:27 am

Thank you, Chuck! That is probably what I was vaguely remembering 🙂

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313 pat advis January 23, 2018 at 3:59 pm

I used to be able to go to this URL-

-and access snow depth info for various sites in the mountains such as Little Elbow summit. This could be found as a chart or as a graph which showed the depth for the current year, the previous year, and an average range.
It appears Alberta Environment has “improved” things and I cannot find that info. Does anyone know to where it has migrated?
🙁

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314 pat advis January 23, 2018 at 4:01 pm

oops, it did not accept the pasted URL.If you have accessed that site, you know where I mean
Just in case it will work this time…
http://www.environment.alberta.ca/apps/basins/default.aspx?Basin=4

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315 Diana Piggott January 23, 2018 at 9:17 pm

Oh, yes, I know what you mean. I just followed your link, and with a bit of digging managed to find some “snow pillows”, but they were hard to find — “improved” 🙁

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316 Mark January 22, 2018 at 9:58 am

HI there,
Looking for trail info/conditions on connecting Banff Golf course to the west end of Banff Ave/Nordic centre.
Essentially we want to link up the Goat Creek Trail to the Nordic Centre.
THx

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317 Bob Truman January 22, 2018 at 10:09 am

You’re referring to the Rundle Riverside trail. My nickname for this trail is “Roots ‘N Rocks.” It probably requires more snow to be safely skiable. You can get some good information from this https://www.bikepirate.com/rundle-riverside/ It also gives intel on the access point at Banff. If you ski it, let us know how bad it was(if you survive).

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318 GordN January 18, 2018 at 8:43 am
319 GordN January 18, 2018 at 8:44 am
320 Diana Piggott January 23, 2018 at 9:19 pm

Very nice!!

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321 Henry L January 17, 2018 at 8:09 am

Has anyone else seen the really cheesy casino ads that are on the CanmoreAlberta.com web cam pages that are linked from Bob’s Web Cams page?
Stuff like “Canada is Ruined – Especially Financially” which turns out to be a web page designed to look like a CBC News page, but is an ad for a Casino.
These are creepy and tabloid-like.

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322 Bob Truman January 17, 2018 at 9:14 am

That’s exactly the reason I did not accept Google advertising on my blog. It cheapens the website to have this intrusive garbage.

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323 GordN January 17, 2018 at 9:54 am

Yep! And the website runner controls the feed, not the hostee, so you never know what’s going to be on “your” site.
It’s also click bait, and a profile assessment builder. Call me paranoid, but I’m wearing a aluminium foil hat, right now…

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324 Henry L January 17, 2018 at 10:39 am

Ha. I can picture Gord with the aluminum foil hat.

But it’s such a shame. Canmore, in my mind, connotes a beautiful town, with wonderful people, shops, and restaurants, and access to all of those outdoor activities. It’s so neat to sip a cup of tea and munch at yummy cookie at the window of Beamers, with that 5-star view of mountains in behind.

Those ads are surely counterproductive.

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325 Kristy January 16, 2018 at 11:19 am

I am looking for cross country skis/binding for beginner/intermediate (waxless). I am 5’6 and 118lbs. I would prefer to buy used if possible. I am in Calgary & Canmore. I require boots and poles as well…. women size 6-6.5
Thanks for your help!

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326 Willie January 16, 2018 at 12:22 pm

You can try Switching Gear in Canmore on 10th St. They sell consignment.

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327 Martin Jones January 15, 2018 at 8:46 pm

Interesting trip report made by Carole January 15, 2018 at 8:06 am about some skier/bikers from Montreal who skied one day and then fat biked the same trail the following day and stated the skiing was more enjoyable.

I wonder if recent interest in fat biking will actually cause an increase in cross country skiers? Most of the time I see fat bikers on snow I have to admit it does not look like much fun. I feel the same way in the summer when I see folks on roller skis on the roads where I live, I then think, I’d much rather be riding my bike. Maybe that’s just me and I have to admit I’ve tried neither!

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328 GordN January 15, 2018 at 8:58 am

Any resources for trail intel Central Alberta? Friend in Sundre looking for beginner places to try, other than Sundre itself, go that one, and Bearberry.

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329 Paul Shippy January 22, 2018 at 2:58 pm

I live in Sundre and recommend Rocky Mountain House at the golf course, it’s nicely groomed and track set. There’s also Kevisville which is just north and east of Sundre a bit along the Raven River though not sure of the conditions. Innisfail used to trackset on their golfcourse, again not sure about that. Olds was setting some trails around their townsite. In Sundre we are hosting Tuesday night ski club at the rodeo grounds from 7pm to 9pm, this is nicely groomed for skating and trackset. Feel free to email our club for more info: sundrebikenski@gmail.com

Paul

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330 GordN January 22, 2018 at 4:41 pm

TY!

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331 Kate January 14, 2018 at 2:00 pm

Hi, I’m wondering if anyone knows the approx. distance of the full loop at Maple Ridge Golf Course. Thanks!

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332 Llewellyn January 26, 2018 at 6:48 pm

The outer full loop is ~ 6km.

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333 Kate January 30, 2018 at 1:54 pm

Thank you!

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334 Chris January 12, 2018 at 8:47 am

Hello, I would like to ask if there is a warming hut and a picnic table somewhere in WBC? thanks.

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335 Bob Truman January 12, 2018 at 8:54 am

There’s a warming hut and a picnic table at the far end(west end) of the parking lot. Photo of warming hut

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336 fallsalot January 6, 2018 at 7:09 pm

Congrats to Alex Harvey for taking third place in Tour de Ski stage 6. Tomorrow final day and another chance for a podium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sC-_xmU3HM

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337 RichieRich January 2, 2018 at 4:46 pm

On my drive out to ski WBC yesterday I noted that the Redwood Meadows golf course appeared to have some tracksetting done. Anyone know anything about what’s available there? Nothing is noted on the golf course web page.

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338 fallsalot January 1, 2018 at 8:58 pm

What is the attraction of skiing on the left side, particularly up the Blueberry Hill Trail? Are all skiers on the left track from England? Is the body odor of your friend so bad that you can’t follow in a single file on the right? Do you have subconscious desire to own the trail? Do you have a death wish?
Come on people use your imagination this is dangerous. Blueberry is steep and has lots of blind corners. If you can climb up there you are not a rookie skier and know the rules. Please, be nice to your fellow skier.

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339 Sarah December 31, 2017 at 1:13 pm

We’ve never skied the stretch between Castle Junction and Baker Creek Chalets, but if we were going to pick just some of this trail as an out and back ski, which section is most scenic/fun?

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340 Bob Truman December 31, 2017 at 5:15 pm

For the most scenic stretch of trail, park at Castle Lookout and ski about 5K west(towards Baker Creek). The first half-kilometre is in the trees but it soon opens up and is spectacular after that. I’d say this is probably the most fun, too.

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341 Sarah December 31, 2017 at 7:01 pm

Thanks- that’s very helpful.

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342 Getslostalot December 30, 2017 at 4:27 pm

At Sandy McNabb, is there a warming hut?
If we brought our own wood, where is it permissible to have a fire?

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343 sheila December 30, 2017 at 5:00 pm

I can tell you for sure that there is no warming hut at Sandy. Would be nice though especially near the skating rink. Not sure about the fires. My suggestion would be to call the Ranger Station at Sandy, or, when open, go into the station (right hand side of road) before you get to left turn into campground). The skiing is a little more rustic than WBC and the season is not long so get there while you can. My husband was there today and saw three other skiers. That would be considered heavy crowds for this area! Love you moniker. Could so be me.

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344 GordN December 30, 2017 at 11:00 pm

How was it there, did he say?

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345 sheila December 31, 2017 at 4:10 pm

Oh, I received a full report. Both yesterday and today. He mentioned it was cold. He also said that anything that had been groomed is snow covered and skier tracked. Again, heavy traffic with three cars in parking lot. Still, this is a treat for any living close to the area as Sandy is less than 20 minutes from our house as opposed to a 45 one way drive to WBC. Enjoying it while we can as double digits appear to be in the forecast. 🙁

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346 Maude December 30, 2017 at 6:24 am

Heading to Elk Lakes ACC cabin January 2nd with three families. Anyone has an update on trail conditions? Is the power line the only route? Thank you for any info!

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347 Getslostalot December 30, 2017 at 4:21 pm

It is most definitely more scenic in the West Elk Pass meadows which you step into by stepping off Elk Pass trail about 100 to 150m past Blueberry junction (picnic table). A few hundred meters through meadows that choke and reopen will get you to MaSid’s infamous snow-couch on the east side of the now very expansive and beautiful meadow. Study Google-Earth to recognize the large fork further down that meadow. You want the east (left) fork, so that you get to the power-line near or just past the point it makes a slight bend or kink. From there it’s the power line trail like everyone else. Rest assured it will feel too narrow to snowplow at times. If everyone takes a moment to side step and pack just some of a steep section it really helps.

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348 Maude December 31, 2017 at 8:29 am

Thanks a lot! That is very helpful!

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349 Maude December 31, 2017 at 8:58 am

I looked at Google earth and I can clearly see the east fork at the end of the meadow. I can’t make out the link between the left fork and the power line. With the cold weather and snow, I am wondering if we will find the trail once we reach that point. Will we end up at the bottom of the kink in the power line?
THanks!!

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350 RichieRich December 26, 2017 at 7:03 pm

Anyone know when/if the CNC will fix or update their weather conditions link? As of today it’s still stuck on Nov 19th 2017. I’ve come to rely upon this for anticipating snow and clothing choices.

http://www.canmorenordiccentre.org/weather/

I don’t know the answer to your question, but I’ve deleted my links to it since it could be very misleading. It’s been stuck on -2 for a long time. I’ve sent an email to CNC asking about it and the warming hut. -Bob

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351 Tanya December 26, 2017 at 5:08 pm

Hi, does anybody know when the warming hut will be opening at the Canmore Nordic Centre? Too cold to ski there right now with kids if it’s not open. Thanks.

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352 Bob Truman December 27, 2017 at 9:44 am

I’ve been informed by CNC the warming hut is open.

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353 Richard December 23, 2017 at 10:33 pm

Hi,
I am just wondering does anyone know if Canmore Nordic Centre is open tomorrow December 24th? I can’t seem to locate any info on openning hours. Thank you.

It’s open for skiing every day. The daylodge is closed on Christmas day, but you can still go skiing – for free! -Bob

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354 Clae December 23, 2017 at 10:23 am

Hi, is recommended wax temp taken from air or snow? I am finding differing answers. Swix says taken just above snow others say top layer of snow.
Thoughts …

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355 Hugh December 23, 2017 at 10:59 am

Clae; Simple answer is when it’s cold and wax ranges are large IE -10–30C air temp suffices. It’s cold.
As the temp gets closer to zero I still use air temp and usually whatever the car temp said when arriving at trailhead.
If you have a waxing thermometer ? laying just under the snow gives you an idea of the temp your skis will be gliding/gripping on. Use the aspect which mimics where you are skiing. IE in a shady or sunny spot depending.
If the air and snow temp are wildly different use the snow and work from there.
After years of waxing for racers and myself for loppers I’ve become pretty lazy. I don’t worry too much about temperatures and wax via feel.(if that makes sense) I live in Canmore and usually wax up one or even two waxes warmer due to the hard manmade snow and the fact the Nordic Centre tills their snow which changes its consistency.

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356 PM December 23, 2017 at 7:37 pm

Wax tin temp ranges are for snow temps. Air temps (or forecast) tell you what might be expected an hour or two from when you start out (e.g, warming/cooling/overcast/etc.).

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357 Barbara December 22, 2017 at 5:38 pm

I have a question:
All dogs are to be under the care and control of their owners. So, if I were to be skiing down a hill, even in a dog friendly are such as West Bragg Creek, and the owner is not in control of the dog, and the dog attacks me or decides to step in front of me while I’m on a down hill, and I fall over the dog and injure myself, would I be able to sue the owner for not having the dog under their control?

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358 Martin & Jip December 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm

I’m not a lawyer, but I believe in our part of the world anyone can sue anyone else for anything, winning is more complicated.
I skied WBC today with my black and white husky, she is harnessed and I always try to stop interactions with other people and dogs when they would prefer to be left alone, in my experience this is normal for dog owners @ WBC

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359 Alf Skrastins December 22, 2017 at 10:43 pm

You can pursue the dog owner and their insurance for compensation and/or sue if you run into an out of control dog. But you also have the responsibility to be skiing in control, so the exact circumstances will determine how successful you would be.
However, if the dog attacks/bites you, Alberta has legislation (Dangerous Dogs Act), http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/D03.pdf.

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360 Barbara December 23, 2017 at 7:45 am

What about ‘care and control’ of your dog? In all circumstances when cross country skiing you have limited control when coming downhill. Other skiers coming uphill are to yield to you… and step off to the side when they stop going downhill (you can’t read their minds) but if you have a dog that is limiting your route choice…and a moving target, what exactly is ‘care and control’?

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361 Greg foord December 23, 2017 at 4:42 pm

What about this scenario? You are skiing down that same hill and you are about to hit my dog and I step in front of you to prevent that and I am injured by you – can I sue you? Can you sue me? Which state of the US are we in?
I have been chased, bitten and hit by dogs and people (well no people have bitten me yet) while skiing, running, biking etc and I have never had the inclination to seek monetary compensation nor would most people. A few unkind words should suffice .

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362 Peace on Earth December 23, 2017 at 5:26 pm

I agree with you Greg. I have had children, novice skiers (I was on the uphill yielding to downhillers that wiped out and crashed into me), errant branches and twigs, and a rabbit all cause me to take a tumble but the last thing on my mind was revenge and retribution. I honestly did not even go the unkind word route as in each case (children and novice skiers) they were so apologetic and obviously did not intend to ruin my day. I also realize that when I go to heavily populated multi use areas and the one area in Calgary that allows for dogs to be off leash that this is something that could occur. I do have a suggestion for Barbara to avoid all of the above but a trip to Siberia might not be on her bucket list.

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363 Wendy December 23, 2017 at 5:57 pm

I would like to ask what the definition of “care and control” is with respect to a dog on aski trail in an area like WBC?

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364 Peace on Earth December 23, 2017 at 6:09 pm

Staying out of Barbara’s way, me thinks.

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365 Barbara B. (a different Barbara) December 23, 2017 at 6:14 pm

I’ve wondered about this as well since this post was started. Even XC skiing downhill, I would sure hope that skiers are in control at all times, and that if one feels out of control or with limited control, you adjust your skiing until you feel in control again. Otherwise of course one will take a fall or crash into something sooner or later.

Merry Christmas!

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366 Steve Riggs December 23, 2017 at 7:44 pm

As someone who frequently skis with our dog at WBC, I would hate to see the off-leash privileges taken away. One easy way to reduce potential conflicts that we often do- is to tether the dog when ascending the longer faster hills, just in case she wanders into the path of a quickly descending skier.

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367 sheila December 23, 2017 at 9:07 pm

Steve, I so agree with your comment on not wanting this rare off-leash privilege to be taken away. Of course, all dog owners have a responsibility to have their dogs under control but, like children, sometimes the unexpected happens. Best possible scenario is that we all try to show patience and compassion. Personally, I love seeing the excitement and energy of the dogs leashed and controlled in the parking lot but by the time we all disperse on the trails I have yet to witness a major altercation. This is being said after 25 years of skiing in the WBC area. I feel that if anyone really has an issue with dogs there are so many areas they can ski where off leash is not permissible. Let’s try to get along.

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368 Hugh December 22, 2017 at 1:09 pm

If you are on Facebook FB and ski at the Canmore Nordic Centre CNC check out this page. It’s dedicated to folks skiing the obscure trails at CNC. Lots of folks only ski the superhighways. Give the lesser know narrower old school trails a try.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1294354243924226/

Hugh

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369 Martin December 21, 2017 at 8:58 pm

Hi everyone! I’m getting skin skis this year (first time trying this out) and I’ve narrowed it down to 3 budget-friendly options : Atomic Motion Skintec, Fischer Twin Skin Power EF and Rossignol R-Skin Sport. Anyone has any experience with those skis? I’ve read that the Atomics are a bit too grabby, and both others are faster, but I can get the Atomics almost half price so I’m wondering if others felt that they were slower. Thanks!

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370 Hugh December 22, 2017 at 8:56 am

Martin
Flex should be the deciding factor for you Get the correct flex and the drag effect is minimized. If cost is an issue buy Atomic.
I know Fishcer changes the length of their skins based on ski length. In order to maximize grip and glide it changes the depth of the skins into the base.. I don’t think Atomic does any of that. No idea on Rossi.
See my comments below as to Atomics and flex.

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371 Henry L December 22, 2017 at 9:10 am

I always like reading your helpful comments, Hugh.

I googled the products that Martin is interested in, just for fun.

Martin, I notice that Sportchek has the Fischers for $183.99 on their web site. Perhaps too good to be true?
https://www.sportchek.ca/product/332152499.html

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372 Martin December 22, 2017 at 7:11 pm

Thank you both for your answers!

I am pretty much in the middle of the weight range for both skis (75kg dressed for the 194´s 70-85kg range) so both could work well I guess.I have found the Atomic Skintecs for 189$ with Prolink bindings installed and the Fischer Twin Skin Powers for 189$ without bindings. At that price, both are within my budget. Visually, the Atomics seem to be much better quality, but a few shops (that didn’t sell Atomics) told me that people seem to like Fischers for the glide. Tough call!

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373 Martin December 28, 2017 at 4:10 pm

Hi everyone,
Here’s a follow up of my experience in case others would be interested by skins. I bought the Fischers and tried them today in -20C weather, along with my wax skis that I had carefully waxed to make an eve comparison, swapping skis between my friend and me. We were both amazed by the uphill grip of the skins, and the glide felt like 90-95% of the waxed skis’s glide. My friend decided to keep the Atomics that I had also bought, so we’ll compare between brands, but I’m not going back to wax skis! Happy ski season everyone!

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374 Henry L January 12, 2018 at 9:31 am

Martin, thanks for letting us know your experience with the Fischers and Atomics. Great news for skiers.

375 Krista December 20, 2017 at 11:58 am

Hello! I’m wondering if anyone might have any recommendations for something that’s dog-friendly and no crazy hills (I’m pregnant, so taking it easy), preferably close to Canmore/Banff area. I think I might have a good idea already from the great info on this site, but thought I’d put the question out there in case I might be missing something. Heading out this Friday which I’d imagine will be great snow. Thanks! 🙂

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376 Martin & Jip December 20, 2017 at 12:08 pm

Hard to beat Bill Milne trail, if it got sufficient snow, check to see if it gets packed/groomed.

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377 Jonathan December 20, 2017 at 1:55 pm

The trail map https://www.albertaparks.ca/media/6493732/2016_ribbon_creek_winter_brochure.pdf says that dogs are not permitted on groomed trails, so this may not be a good option.

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378 Bob Truman December 20, 2017 at 1:58 pm

It’s a misprint on the brochure. Dogs are allowed on the Bill Milne and Ribbon Creek trails. http://skierbob.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Brochure.png I wrote about this issue in an update on Nov 25, 2015 http://skierbob.ca/2015/11/ribbon-creek-trails-are-fantastic/

“I stopped at the Barrier Lake Visitor Centre and received some clarification on the new brochure which originally stated that dogs were not allowed on the Ribbon creek trails. It was a misprint. Dogs are still allowed.”

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379 Jan December 20, 2017 at 2:56 pm

Up at the Mount Shark ski area behind Canmore, the Watridge Lake trail might be an option. It’s 3.2 km to the Lake and fairly flat until the last steep hill down the lake, you could turn around at the top (junction with map) or walk down to it. Dogs are allowed on leash and the scenery is spectacular!

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380 Allie December 19, 2017 at 4:35 pm

We are planning to go to Golden just after Xmas; can you tell me if it’s far from trails in Lake Louise? What ski area/trails do you recommend; fairly close to Golden. Intermediate skiiers.
thanks
Allie

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381 Bob Truman December 19, 2017 at 4:58 pm

It’s a one-hour drive. The xc ski area in Golden is known as Dawn Mountain and it’s groomed by the Golden Nordic Club.

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382 Derek December 19, 2017 at 3:09 pm

Hi. I’m planning a ski trip in the next week or so. I recall reading that the highway between Banff and Lake Louise is/was under construction (cancelling the Lake Louise to Banff loppet??). Are expected driving times between Canmore and Radium delayed? P.S. Great website. Lots of first hand info for planning ski trips to new locations. Thank you.

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383 Bob Truman December 19, 2017 at 3:38 pm

The closure only affects the Bow Valley Parkway. Access on the Trans Canada Hwy between Banff and Lake Louise is unaffected. Canmore to Radium is also unaffected.

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384 Edward December 19, 2017 at 1:50 pm

Hi Margot. The Skintecs do work. The only advice that I would add is to be aware that you can not pre load onto your toes and the ball of your foot, like you would do on a waxable ski. Too much preload will cause the Skintec to grab the snow and you will be falling forward. One good session on the skintec will allow you to adjust your technique, and you should be off like a bunny.

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385 Hugh December 19, 2017 at 4:37 pm

Edward;
If you have the correct flex for your skis no adjustment to technique is required. I see Atomic sells multiple flexes from soft to XH.
The only adjustment we need is when stepping out of tracks onto softer snow the middle of the ski can catch or when skiing on an uneven/undulating track and one places their foot directly on a hump. That happens when using klister or soft sticky waxes as well..

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386 Margot December 18, 2017 at 8:21 pm

Hello!

I’m looking into Skintec technology for classic skiing. I’m specifically interested in the Atomic Sport Pro Skintec model (https://shop.atomic.com/en-us/products/sport-pro-skintec-ab0499.html) – if anyone has experience with these. However, any and all advice/reviews on this technology would be fantastic!

Thanks!

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387 Hugh Burton December 18, 2017 at 8:52 pm

Margot My wife and I switched to Skintecs two seasons ago replacing Fischer Crown SCS for challenging wax conditions. Probably the best ski purchase we’ve made over the years. We travel with them when we go into B.C. (where its warmer and waxing conditions are more challenging than in AB.) We no longer travel with wax.
We are long time skiers and are capable waxers., but skin skis are game changers.
I see Atomic has a broad range of skintec models which is much expanded from when we bought ours. We like the fact one can replace the strips if they get worn.
There are lots of other ski manufacturers with a “skin” model. I know a few folks here in Canmore who have Fischer skins skis and love them..
A friend of mine says of skin skis..”imagine the difference between a rotary dial phone and an iPhone. That’s how good they are. ” I concur.

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388 DrJ December 18, 2017 at 9:47 pm

I have exactly the pair of Atomics you are looking at and love them. I came upon an article by Peter Watson you may wish to read entitled ‘Atomic SkinTec Classic Ski Review’ January 8 2014. In the discussion , Phil Evanson of Prince George, discusses binding placement to get better glide that I found useful in buying a pair of bindings that I push back for more ‘glide’ or forward for more ‘stick’ on his. I get this with the Roteflella Xcelerator binding. Truth be told I like more glide so have kept them a notch back. Bought both skis and bindings at MEC in Calgary 2 years ago.

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389 Margot December 18, 2017 at 10:41 pm

Thanks Hugh! I was thinking the Atomic would be a good bet because they “brought it back” so to speak so their technology is tested a bit more.

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390 Manfred Kintop December 18, 2017 at 2:02 pm

Hey Bob, I was checking out the “Ski Trails” live grooming website and noticed 2 xc ski areas that I didn’t even know existed in SW Alberta. One is located at Beauvais Lake provincial park, and the other south of Beaver Mines, close to Castle Mountain ski resort in Syncline Provincial park. Have you ever heard anything about either of these areas?

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391 Bob Truman December 18, 2017 at 5:17 pm

I’m not familiar with those areas. I’ve skied close by at the Allison-Chinook cross country ski area (they’re not on the Live Grooming system). It looks like all these areas will get the lion’s share of this snowfall and should be able to enjoy their first grooming of the season.

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392 Manfred Kintop December 19, 2017 at 9:57 am

That’s what I was thinking as well. I believe a recon trip down south is in order.

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393 Barbara B. December 16, 2017 at 5:29 pm

I’m having a hard time finding ski reports up Pipestone Valley, towards Skoki. Been intrigued by this as a backcountry tour for a few years, never skied out from Skoki that way as it seems like a looooong day, so thinking of taking a day during the holidays to scope out the area from the Pipestone side and see how much progress one can make in a day. Anyone have a GPS or KML file for this? Photos? Is it basically a bush bash (similar the way out from Elk Lakes Cabin via West Elk Pass), or is there actually path that one can follow without crazy deadfall?

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394 Henry L December 17, 2017 at 8:23 am

Chuck has skied that route. See the discussion back in the archives for Trips Reports Dec 2017. I have copied and pasted his reply and link to photos below:

“Yes, we know the route well. In fact we have come out from Skoki via the Pipestone a few times.
Hopefully this link from April 2014 still works:
https://www.alltrails.com/explore/recording/skoki-grand-tour
We spent 2 nights at Skoki which allowed us to complete a Grand Tour. Day 1 arround Fossil Mountain to Skoki Lodge and up to Merlin Lake after Tea. Day 2 to Natural Bridge and back around Skoki Mountain. Day 3 out via the Pipestone River.
While there are a lot of pictures, it may be worth scanning through. You will see us passing the Pipestone Warden Cabin on the last day.
As you say, these are trips to plan for later in the season when the days are longer.”

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395 GordN December 29, 2017 at 11:38 am

Maybe one of chic Scott’s books? Or even contact him directly? He seems an affable fella

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396 Henry L December 29, 2017 at 12:50 pm

Did the old Rick Kunelius (Ski Trails of the Canadian Rockies) book describe that route?

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397 GordN December 29, 2017 at 2:34 pm

Standby. Heading to the basement to dig that out (can’t bring myself to throw it out!)

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398 JeremyN December 29, 2017 at 8:41 pm

For what it’s worth gang, Kunelius-Biederman guide only mentions route to/from Skoki via Boulder/Deception Pass. As for Chic Scott’s edition (1992), he accounts in depth pg123 with advise: “…24km, 600m el. loss…long and trail breaking required… in deep snow might be difficult to complete in a day”. Route finding said to be “tricky”. I personally have no experience with this route.

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399 barb banff December 29, 2017 at 10:07 pm

It’s best done with a good snow pack, usually later in season.
And longer days.
Historically, the trip hasn’t been popular so expect trail breaking between Skoki and the groomed Pipestone trails.
From the Pipestone end , skiing the creek can be easier and faster than the trail.
Last time I skied it the trail was hard to find past the warden cabin, but found wolverine tracks to follow all the way to the trackset trails.

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400 Glen December 15, 2017 at 9:15 am

Is there a charge to use these trails in K country? Where does a person pay to use these trails?

There is no charge, just drive to the trailhead and start skiing. -Bob

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401 JeremyN December 15, 2017 at 9:23 am

No charge at Peter Lougheed Peiv Park, Ribbon Creek/Delta Kananaskis Lodge or Mt. Shark -do visit Barrier Lake info centre on the way for upto date conditions. Donations welcome in drop box at West Bragg Creek (no snow right now) and of course, Canmore Nordic Centre does have trail/facility day use fee. Happy skiing!

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402 Anne-Marie Wiedemann December 15, 2017 at 9:04 am

Does the poccaterra hut have a microwave? Heading out tomorrow and would love to have something hot for lunch.

No, but the PLPP Discovery Centre(formerly known as the Visitor Centre) has a microwave and tea kettle. I often stop in there to make tea for the drive home. It’s about 2K up the road from Pocaterra. -Bob

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403 Barbara B. December 14, 2017 at 10:26 pm

Where can one purchase replacement rubber ‘stoppers’ (not sure what they’re called) for ski bindings? I’m specifically replacing the ones on my light touring Salamon SNs XA manual bindings. Tried Lifesport, MEC, and Norseman, all without any luck. Also contacted Salomon, who claim that somewhat crumbly stoppers don’t affect performance. However, I’d hate for one of these break and lose half of it while on a multi-day tip, and then have my boot crazy loose in the ski. Tried ordering online as well, again without any luck. Surely someone must have run into this? I’ve had these bondings for five years and only used them maybe four or five times. I think it’s just like an elastic band that just breaks down over time.

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404 Barbara B. December 14, 2017 at 10:27 pm

P.S: Click here to see a photo of what thos manual binding looks like:
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5018-984/SNS-XA-Manual-Bindings

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405 JeremyN December 14, 2017 at 11:12 pm

I bought mine from the tech. at Norseman last year. Also try Trail Sport (Canmore) and also Track and Trail and Fast Trax (Edmonton): they’re GREAT ski stores with superb service and humility. It’s not a rare part and should be readily available.

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406 AJ December 11, 2017 at 10:16 pm

Hello, I am wondering if there arw any clubs or individuals that will come to a school to teach basic x-country skiing?

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407 Henry L December 12, 2017 at 9:05 am

AJ, your query, and I hope you get a good answer, got me to thinking. I guess that a teacher going indoors can use roller skis to teach and mimic the classic stride action.

I wonder if though, with today’s mohair grip technology skis, it’s possible to find a combination of plastic (teflon?) sheet and glide wax that would let a teacher use a long roll of plastic sheet indoors in a gym on which to show the kick and glide using a real ski? What do the ski jumpers/aerialists use on their ski jump ramps in summer?

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408 JeremyN December 14, 2017 at 11:05 pm

I’m sure you’ll get a good answer from the program coord. at Cross Country Alberta and I believe Biathalon Alberta has a trailer of equipment/mobile classroom still -we had them to our club in Okotoks a few years ago and they’ve also visited area schools (phenomenal experience for the kids). Foothills Nordic also (used to?) have same I believe. If your rural, check with local clubs and Ski Fit North as they’ve been to a variety of Reserves and have programming and personnel. Good Luck!

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409 Henry L December 15, 2017 at 7:56 am

That is so cool that they have a trailer/mobile classroom experience to share with students and others!

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410 AJ January 4, 2018 at 6:34 am

Thank you. I will follow up with them.

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411 Bill December 10, 2017 at 8:26 am

In case a game of Kananaskis trivial pursuit ever breaks out, can anyone confirm the correct pronunciation of “Pocaterra”? Is it POKEaterra or POCKaterra?

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412 Keith December 10, 2017 at 1:53 pm

Too bad George Pocaterra is long past on, he would be the best authority.
This comment isn’t confirmation but I use POKEaterra.

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413 Diana Piggott December 10, 2017 at 1:56 pm

Since George was Italian, I expect you are right about the “poke”. Imagine someone with an Italian accent pronouncing the name 🙂

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414 GordN December 10, 2017 at 3:46 pm

And if you want to really blow ‘em away with your George trivia read the book “The Diva and the rancher” available from CPL

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415 Diana Piggott December 10, 2017 at 9:20 pm

I have that book! It is a really good read.

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416 TC December 10, 2017 at 12:51 am

Can you skate on Pipestone or is that not allowed?

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417 barb banff December 10, 2017 at 5:47 am

it’s not “illegal” – but you would suffer the wrath of the many classic skiers
who enjoy this trail!
The trails are all relatively narrow, and skating would destroy the tracks.

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418 JeremyN December 10, 2017 at 5:55 am

Not being the defacto authority, but I would say until classic track is layed down, YES it’s fine as I’ve seen a quite few people do it early season. Bear in mind the narrow trail & double-pole when decent skier-set classic track is established is courteous. Don’t forget to leash Fido -he’s subject to a $25K ! fine if caught (notwithstanding reasoning of deterring wildlife harassment and safety). Hope that helps TC.

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419 TC December 10, 2017 at 11:47 am

Thanks it isn’t somewhere where I would skate normally; I saw a trip report that said they skated on Pipestone so it perked my attention for skijoring. Thanks for the info!

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420 Jenn December 11, 2017 at 8:03 am

This is good info-thanks all! Does anyone know of good skate skiing areas you can take dogs on leash? We will take him classic but much easier to skate with an energetic dog 🙂
I know West Bragg but anywhere in Banff or Lake Louise?

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421 Bob Truman December 11, 2017 at 8:19 am

Sundance Canyon in Banff has 3.9K. The Campground Loop in Lake Louise has about 1K. Dogs are allowed in parts of the Tunnel Mountain trails in Banff and I believe they are wide enough for skating. If you’re not familiar with Tunnel Mountain trails, here is an update from their grand opening http://skierbob.ca/2015/12/tunnel-mountain-in-banff/. There’s not enough snow yet at Sundance Canyon or Tunnel Mountain.

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422 Jonathan December 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm

Bill Milne trail at Ribbon Creek is another option when there is snow. The trail map says dogs aren’t permitted, but I think Bob got confirmation from Alberta Parks that this is incorrect. It is still on the list of dog friendly trails.

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423 Mike Wipf December 6, 2017 at 9:05 pm

Hello Bob and Everyone else

I’m going to be downhill skiing with some friends at sunshine Banff next Wednesday. We like to do some XC Skiing on Thursday nearby . Can anybody recommend some great beginner intermediate locations for XC .

Thanks

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424 Chuck December 7, 2017 at 8:43 am

Of course, it depends on what you mean by “nearby” Mike!
No XC Skiing available in Banff, so try the Canmore Nordic Centre or drive to Lake Louise like the rest of us.

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425 Mike Wipf December 8, 2017 at 10:31 am

Ya mention the closest trails to Banff . So that would be Canmore or Lake Louise . My friends have hinted interest in Louise already . I just don’t know my way around yet and haven’t looked at maps yet .

Strange I’m not getting the replies sent to my email . Thought I had it set up that way . Thanks for the replies .

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426 GordN December 8, 2017 at 2:06 pm

I believe you have to set the frequency. In this situ, you’d want it set to “immediate” alert. Or whatever they call it.

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427 GordN December 7, 2017 at 9:39 am

Try this link, (you may have to re-load once you have picked your official language) There’s also a PDF link on the page.

http://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/banff/activ/skidefond-xcski/banff

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428 Chuck December 7, 2017 at 9:32 pm

Note… the above website provides general information, but does not reflect current snow conditions.

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429 Mike Wipf December 8, 2017 at 10:48 am

Thanks guys

I looked a bit closer here at the site and am going to print of some maps and target the XC trails in the Louise area .

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430 Hugh December 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm

Passing on a wide open trail with two tracks with a skating lane in between:
We were classic skiing back along the Great Divide trail and passed a skier talking to a friend. As we passed I heard “I’ll just step into the tracks behind you” coming from this skier. Ok I thought, odd someone would say that but …..
After a few strides I hear something to the effect of “I think ,I’ll pass you”. Ok, go ahead, in my mind. A few strides later I realized she must be thinking to track me.
I was so surprised, I stepped out of the tracks onto the skate lane, and she skied by in the tracks, without a thank you.
With the advent of superhwy skate lanes and double tracks, who tracks anyone anymore? I can see tracking on single tracks while overtaking. She sounded so polite too, to a point, minus the thank you.
Of course within a few minutes we passed her, standing in the tracks, talking to someone else on the skate lane. We skied around them without a word and ended up back at the parking lot without seeing this skier again.
I always ski around if I’m faster (which now a days doesn’t happen all that much) I trust my ability to change lanes and have no idea of the other skier’s ability, so it’s much safer to go around.

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431 Martin December 4, 2017 at 7:23 pm

IMO recreational ski tracks are just like roads, they are there for all and passing is the responsibility of the fast to go around the slow. I pass plenty of skiers and get passed myself, have never called ‘track’ and don’t remember hearing anyone calling ‘track’ to pass. I can imagine calling ‘track’ does happen at CNC, for an athlete in training there’s good reason too, I very rarely ski CNC and that is partly the reason why.

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432 Mike W December 5, 2017 at 9:19 pm

I call “track please” from time to time. Usually it’s on double-track where two people are skiing side-by-side and I’m catching up to them, and I need them to ski in single file in one track so I can pass them in the other track. Also, as Hugh mentioned, on single track trails such as Fox Creek in PLPP.

On rare occasions is the situation of a normally multi-track trail where there has been a significant amount of fresh snow that hasn’t been groomed yet, but there is one skier-packed track. If I’m significantly faster than the person ahead, I’ll step into the fresh snow and break trail while passing. But if breaking trail slows me down so much that I can’t pass, then I’ll call “track please”.

PS. I’ve yielded to faster skiers in all the above situations as well.

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433 Henry L December 6, 2017 at 7:55 am

One option, as is done on some city walking/biking trails is to perhaps courteously inform the people that we are going by (ha! It wouldn’t be me doing the passing anymore).

So, perhaps a polite “coming by on your left”, which I prefer to the more brusque “On your left”, which can be bewildering to the uninitiated.

It makes me smile when I think of the wonderful velodrome “Stick!”, which is shouted with a beautiful combination of assertion and pleading -)

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434 Clae December 3, 2017 at 10:44 am

Hi Bob, do you have any info on Emerald Lake and surrounding area trail conditions we are planning a stay at the Lodge mid December. Anything you or anyone else has would be great. Thanks …

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435 Helen Read December 3, 2017 at 2:16 pm

Under Bob’s heading “Trail Reports” you can scroll down to YOHO and then Kicking Horse Ski Club home page. You will see the most current information there; the lake needs time to freeze up before they can start working on Alluvial Fan etc. Then click on “Winter Rentals” on same website and there is a number you can call into Emerald Sports store and perhaps find out more current information.

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436 Clae December 3, 2017 at 4:02 pm

Helen, thanks for the info I will check them all out…
Clae

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437 Carman November 27, 2017 at 10:01 am

Non-skiing technical question. When accessing Live Grooming with Safari on my Apple computer running OS X, the interactive map portion of the page is a no show. The same action on my I Pad running iOS gets the map.
I’m sure things were working normally end of last season.
Has anyone else experienced this?

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438 Bob Truman November 27, 2017 at 10:07 am

One suggestion is to contact the Ski Trails people who run the site:
http://skitrails.info/about

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439 Lyle Opseth November 26, 2017 at 3:48 pm

Thanks Bob for informing the fat-tire cyclists on Blueberry of their mistake. I was also descending down Blueberry when I nearly ran into them. I had just passed you as you were heading up and said “Hi. Nice to see you again.” as I passed by though you didn’t recognize me.

Although I didn’t know that fat-bikes were not allowed in PLPP I did know that no one obstructs an entire ski trail on steep downhills whether he or she is a cyclist, skier, snowshoer or whatever. I silently cursed them for their stupidity as they scattered just in time. They should have figured out the danger from that incident alone. Their lack of etiquette was extremely dangerous and they need to learn proper rules whether they are in PLPP or going up to Skogan Pass. I have met some skiers coming down from Skogan Pass at high speed as I’ve skied up and proper knowledge and observance of etiquette is essential to prevent injuries.

It was even more unacceptable that they shouted at you (an experienced skier) that it’s not their fault your just learning to ski (and you’re on a ski trail!!!) and nor to continue along the trails once you’ve informed them they are not to be on the trails.

Thanks again!

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440 JeremyN November 21, 2017 at 9:13 am

Skogan Pass?: dog friendly as per Ribbon & Kananaskis Village? Also, anyone know of conditions this morning? (Notice not recently groomed).

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441 Bob Truman November 21, 2017 at 9:26 am

I believe Skogan Pass is under the same rules as Ribbon and Kananaskis Village. No new grooming so I expect there would be a lot of fresh snow on the trail. Just a guess, but there might be some tracksetting activity today. The village trails were trackset yesterday.

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442 JeremyN November 21, 2017 at 9:45 am

Thank you Bob. I’ll check at Barrier Lake and let you know if I learn otherwise.

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443 Julia Viola November 20, 2017 at 1:22 pm

Hi,
I am an intermediate skier who is most interested in good scenery and a decent length ski. Any recommendations? I was thinking Kananaskis, Peter Lougheed, Canmore, or Bragg Creek area. Thanks.

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444 sheila November 20, 2017 at 3:01 pm

Hi Julia: While any and all of the places you mentioned are amazing, we find we make our decision based on proximity. That is, the best skiing conditions available that happens to be the closest to us. I hate wasting time driving. While I do love Peter Lougheed, Bragg Creek is close (even closer is Sandy but grooming is sporadic at best) to us so always check there first. It has the scenery, distance, and as an added bonus, it is the only off leash dog area (trails only,not in parking lot) in the city. Warming hut, huge parking lot and wonderful volunteers round out the draw to WBC. However, if you are closer to K-country then that should be your “go to” as it also provides all that you are looking for. Best place to find out all this info is on “Trip Reports”. Happy trails!

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445 Chuck November 20, 2017 at 5:40 pm

As Sheila says, it depends where home is. Snow, grooming and other factors may also be important to you, so the Trip Reports page is a great place to find info that is relevant to you.
Happy Trails, and we look forward to your reports!

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446 Rick November 16, 2017 at 9:59 am

Question. What is the maximum ski width for sking in machine groomed tracks?

Rick

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447 PM November 16, 2017 at 1:36 pm

The 2009 CCC Competition Guide indicates a bottom set track width of 6 – 7 cm. Other FIS sources suggest 62 mm bottom and 68 mm top. As such, a ski wider than 60 mm is going to drag/plow quite a bit in set track.

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448 Dow November 17, 2017 at 11:11 am

I had the same question as well when I was looking to purchase a set of skis that would work for both in track and light back country touring. I was debating either the Rossi evo OT 65 or Rossi BC 70. I suspect that BC 70 is probably too wide to have much fun on the tracks. I am not sure how skiing the OT 65 on track would feel like. I asked the manufacturer they said the skis would be fine, I read a few reviews online who agree with this as well. However someone at MEC and a ski shop told me they are too wide. Its so hard to get a definite answer. Once the tracks are set I am going to get a ruler and measure the width personally. Lol.

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449 Henry L November 17, 2017 at 11:54 am

I would not use 65’s. As in PM’s post, if the bottom of the track is anywhere from 60-62mm, you’ll be toast.

The Kastle Trail LW used to be just such a ski, but I don’t know if there is really a market for that kind of thing anymore. It was < 55mm wide but with metal edges and some camber.

One suggestion is to find a slightly wider (44 – 50mm) non-racing profile nordic ski that can be used as a light touring ski on the trails. This will give some stability for snowplows etc.
Then, you can always have a nice 41-44 performance ski as well. Thirdly, this leaves you to have a pure 65 or 70mm side cut metal edged back country ski for just that purpose.
But don't ski with Alf or Steve. Otherwise you'll end up wanting 110 or 120mm wide AT skis too, just for playing around in the loose stuff -)
I know

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450 Jim November 17, 2017 at 1:29 pm

I have Rossi evo OT 65 skis I use for easy backcountry. I really like them for flat terrain because they weigh a fraction of the typical AT setup and you can put skins on them. Because they have scales I occasionally use them in tracks in warmer weather when my skinny waxables are problematic and I haven’t had any noticeable trouble with drag. I guess that could be because warm tacks tend to be a little sloppy dimensionally but I would agree with those who say they work fine.

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451 dwu November 17, 2017 at 3:44 pm

Thanks Jim for your first hand account! Finally able to hear from someone who actually used the skis. A little bit more research led me to conclude the the widest ski width that would have little/no problem on tracks would probably be 65mm or so. Henry, you are right about the base of the track being around 60-62mm, while at the top its about 70mm. After speaking to a wellknown XC ski shop, I was told as the tracks get more frequently used, the width might be widened a little, hence 65mm or so might still borderline-ish work.

Q&A from Onion River Sports also touched on the width topic:
http://www.orscrosscountryskisdirect.com/rossignol-bc65-skis-help-qa.html

@Henry, in an ideal world I would love to have one set for pure tracks, one set for light BC touring, and one set for the steeps, but for the sake of my wallet, I would prefer to keep it simple for now 🙂 Perhaps when I get more devoted to the sport I will be willing to splurge more.

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452 Henry L November 18, 2017 at 9:14 am

Yes, money is an issue. Go with what you have.

I’m sure that you don’t need this reminding, but maybe I do -)
For a full day of track skiing, we won’t enjoy dragging around on a single cambered metal-edged side-profiled BC ski nearly as much as on straighter, lightweight track skis with more camber (even if not fully double cambered). That said, you skiers in the shadow of the foothills aren’t skiing flat terrain all day (the old up/down syndrome), so the BC or light touring ski gives you a lot more stability and security coming down any of the big hills in PLPP – Elk Pass, or the Skogan Screamer, as examples.

Have you looked at used skis? That would be an economical way to start. Sometimes sellers have other skis they want to get rid of. You may end up getting two pairs for one.

Surely some of Bob’s active skiers can chime in here!

I hope you find the skis that work out for you.

453 Henry L November 18, 2017 at 9:36 am

dwu, I’m rethinking what I wrote earlier this morning.

When I first moved to Calgary, it wasn’t track skiing that got my interest.

It was the back country!

So, go, get those BC skiis and explore! There are lots of places to go where you don’t have to worry about being in machined tracks.

454 Barbara December 7, 2017 at 8:50 pm

All great responses. Let’s aim to take some rulers the next time we’re out skiing and get some definitive stats for our local areas – PLPP, Moraine Lake Road, etc. I’m also in the market for a new pair of light touring skis.

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455 barb banff November 14, 2017 at 1:55 pm

I also skied Great Divide yesterday, just before the snow storm.
I was wondering who actually saw the wolverines the day before?
I was pleasantly surprise to see that in fact there were a slew of tracks, mostly at the east- parking lot- end.
Having spent years tracking them in the LL Yoho – banff area, I know actual sighting are very rare.

I would like to file the report with Parks.
Need rough time of day, location, number. Relative sizes- same or one larger and behaviour – ? Disappearing in the trees- curious- etc
If anyone knows who saw them, perhaps you Gould let them

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456 David P November 15, 2017 at 9:56 am

I know the person who saw them (not well, just through our club). Email me at david (dot) pugh (at) shaw.ca and I can put you in touch with her Dad – she took photos.

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457 John November 11, 2017 at 8:22 am

New to cross country skiing so I don’t know the names of the routes. Was wondering if just pass Moraine Lake road. I think it is the old highway 1A if it is track set. Thanks.
john

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458 Chuck November 11, 2017 at 2:45 pm

Not yet… just packed.
The route is more usually called the Great Divide. See under Trip Reports.
Lots of people were out enjoying it today (and there was even parking) but we need more snow!

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459 Wendy November 10, 2017 at 8:46 am

I’m looking for advice/suggestions for a light ski tour this weekend. I’m on light touring with metal edges. Thanks in advance!

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460 Chuck November 11, 2017 at 3:05 pm

I would go to the Great Divide or Moraine Lake Road. Those skis will be nice and stable.

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461 Jill Fuller November 8, 2017 at 9:29 pm

when will they track set PLPP and Mt Shark?

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462 Bob Truman November 8, 2017 at 9:34 pm

Shark and PLPP will require more snow before tracksetting can occur. Let’s hope it comes soon.

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463 Peter November 7, 2017 at 11:39 am

Are dogs allowed on any of the trails near Emerald Lake?

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464 Cheryl Tryon November 7, 2017 at 12:19 pm

Click on the tab for dog friendly trails on the main menu

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465 Peter November 12, 2017 at 11:15 am

Yes I have looked on there. But there is no where saying that dogs aren’t welcome up at Emerald Lake or the surrounding trails.

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466 Bob Truman November 12, 2017 at 11:21 am

It would be a long list if I had to post all the trails where dogs are not allowed. Maybe this will help you: http://www.rmoutlook.com/article/Dog-bans-in-place-on-ski-trails-20170112

“In Yoho National Park, dogs are not allowed on signed cross-country ski trails when snow covered, which includes Kicking Horse Trail, Tally Ho Trail, Emerald Lake Connector, Emerald Alluvial Fan loop and Emerald Lake Horse Trail.”

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467 barb banff November 12, 2017 at 11:26 am

http://www.pc.gc.ca/apps/tcond/cond_e.asp?oPark=100438
Go to the above- yoho park trail conditions.
look at bottom- cross country trails.
See all red signs with / over DOG picture.
that means .,,,,,,,?

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468 Bob Truman November 12, 2017 at 11:57 am

Thanks, Barb. I see another one which I can add to my list of trails where dogs are allowed – Monarch Trail (Yoho Brothers to Monarch Campground).

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469 barb banff November 12, 2017 at 12:33 pm

u definitely have found a full time job !!
you must have more patience than I.

470 Henry November 12, 2017 at 1:33 pm

The Banff and Lake Louise winter trail maps also indicate where dogs are not allowed.

New links to these maps are at:

Banff:
https://pcacdn.azureedge.net/-/media/pn-np/ab/banff/WET4/pdf/2017_winter-trails-EN.pdf?modified=20170515181138&la=en&hash=E355941A0BA0A12A2F5FF99B5CF4F9ADC255678D

Lake Louise:
https://www.pc.gc.ca/en/pn-np/ab/banff/visit/~/media/AD2BECE562F5401CADC0A3CAD2540AF7.ashx

I can’t find a map for Yoho.

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471 Jenn November 6, 2017 at 5:20 pm

Hey!
Not sure if this is the right spot on the site to be asking about this….
Shaganappi golf course trails? Anyone know the status on these? I was out yesterday (all gates were closed) but myself (and at least a dozen others) found our way in and had access to some amazing packed snow and ski trails (just skier tracks at that time). As I was leaving I heard someone saying that the course was property of the Calgary ski club and shouldn’t be skied on unless the gates were open….so what’s the deal? When do the gates open? Is the course public property during the winter for everyone? I’m new to the area and live within walking distance so would be great to know if I can start hitting the trails. Thanks!

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472 Bob Truman November 6, 2017 at 6:15 pm

Shaganappi golf course is property of the City of Calgary. The Calgary Ski Club is responsible for grooming the trails. They usually email me when the course is open for skiing and I post the good news on this blog. Eventually they will have an update on their website. Their website says it’s open for skiing, but that was posted in March.

On the main menu, under Trail Reports, there’s a button for Shaganappi Golf Course.

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473 Keith November 6, 2017 at 3:58 pm

Are there restriction on snowshoeing the “west” leg of the Spray River Loop?

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474 Bob Truman November 6, 2017 at 6:11 pm

Until the trail is groomed, I don’t think there would be any restrictions. Some snowshoe packing would be fine. When the trail is groomed for skiing, multi-users are restricted to the first 700 metres. At 700 metres, there’s a junction with numerous sign directing multi-users to Spray River east.

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475 Jennifer Nunes November 3, 2017 at 4:12 pm

Hello everyone!

I have been cross country skiing for a few years now, but didn’t get out much last year because I developed plantar fasciitis which I have now had for over a year.

This year, I am going out no matter what and I’m hoping that someone will have some recommendations for boots with a lot of support and a heel cup to accommodate my condition. Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks!!

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476 Jennifer Nunes November 3, 2017 at 4:20 pm

Oh…my skis have rottfella bindings if that helps. 🙂

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477 Anne-Marie November 2, 2017 at 1:24 pm

Hi! I would like to start getting in to cross country skiing this year. I’ve done some in the past and have done lots of downhill, so I’m not a complete beginner but I’m not sure where to start for gear. I don’t know much about x-country skis other than fishscale vs wax. How does sizing work? What other factors do I need to consider? Are there any good rental locations where I could try some out? Any places that sell used? Thanks in advance!

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478 GordN November 2, 2017 at 7:12 pm

Lifesport has had used, might be worth a call, and they’ll help with sizing. Kijiji (set up an automatic alert) always seems to have some (but make sure yo know how to size them first, and that the bindings on the skis match the bindings on the boots, and vice versa)

I was appointed the “rental list” make but I have failed Bob in my duties, but that’s another way to test out the sport. Wilson’s in Lake Louise, as well as Sports Rent, Norseman…

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479 RichieRich November 2, 2017 at 11:00 am

re: Confed Golf Course 2017/18 season
Haven’t seen an update from Foothills Nordic on any Confed developments and agreements with the city, nor with any of the area homeowners who weren’t keen on winter usage. With all this snow no doubt there’ll be people out on the sticks pretty quick and so setting expectations early is important. Bob – are you able to poke anyone to get an update please?
thanks.
RR

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480 Martin Jones October 6, 2017 at 11:33 pm

I see the bow valley parkway is closed this winter just after Baker Creek cabins cannot wait for it to be track set!

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481 GordN October 3, 2017 at 11:00 pm

Any ski swaps? I’ve seen max bell but that’s it.

Lifesport?

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482 Cat August 29, 2017 at 10:23 pm

Hey,
I’m looking for a training group for this upcoming season offering dry land and a little bit of race prep. I’ve tried a few in the past but mostly end up in ski improvement classes. I work full time so Canmore’s master’s program won’t work for me.
I’m in Calgary.

Thanks!

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483 Simon August 29, 2017 at 11:07 pm

You should have a look at Space Dogs, who are in Calgary;

http://spacedogsski.club/

It is run by Dasha Gaiazova-Atkins – really excellent person. Drop her a mail and let her know what sort of program you are looking for.

cheers,
simon

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484 Phil Parker August 30, 2017 at 4:53 pm

I second Simon on his recommendation. I joined Space Dogs last year and had a complete blast. Great group of masters skiers who range from competitive to enthusiastic. Superb coaching – dryland, on snow and for those that want/need it a little race support too.

Regards,

Phil

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485 RichieRich August 12, 2017 at 10:11 pm

Hi Bob – periodically you show a screen shot of your Garmin watch. Is it the one that also shows your GPS’d map whilst wearing it? I want one that shows a live map/position just like my Garmin Edge does… the edge being a cycling head unit that has a stem mount. I want to stick with Garmin so would be interested to hear others opinions. My wife just got the VivoActive HR which is awesome EXCEPT no live position on a map. So…. feedback please!!

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486 Sylvia A. June 25, 2017 at 7:03 pm

Today did party of the High Rockies trail. One area to the left was taped off with yellow tape/bear warning signs and a huge white metal bear enclosure to capture a bear. I’ve seen those before when I was in Churchill but never seen it on a trail in the Rockies.

ON another note I LOST ITEMS on the trail today.

PLS delete if not allowed: Lost today(Sunday June 25th) my bear spray and air horn held together by a carabiner in the parking lot of Goat Creek – could also be on the trail heading towards Goat Creek Trail then going left to High Rockies Trail. Pls email me if found oR leave a comment.. many thanks.

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487 Diana Piggott June 15, 2017 at 9:58 pm

I drove up to Highwood Pass today, along with many others. Having followed the Avalanche Canada weather station data there, I took my skis, hoping to find enough white stuff to play a little. Disappointment ensued.
I have wondered about the calibration of their snow depth readings ever since the one at Mud Lake went below zero. Another question, of course, is the location of the sensors. There is patchy snow around Highwood Pass, and might be the odd patch in the trees reaching the advertised depth of 55cm or so, but it wasn’t enough to put my skis on. The area around the parking lot is quite dry, looks good for walking.
I did have a very pleasant hike up to Elbow Lake 🙂

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488 barb banff June 1, 2017 at 10:15 pm

Anyone cycled to high wood pass???
Love to hear if it’s snow free!

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489 Pete June 1, 2017 at 11:10 pm

Hi Barb! I cycled (mostly) to the pass on Tuesday (may 30) from fortress junction. The road is fine till Elbow pass parking. After that (or before, close by anyways) there’s a short section with rock debris on the road then shortly after a large pile of avalanche debris covering the highway. I climbed over it but others climbed the metal barrier and walked on the grass past it. After that it’s clear for a bit then the snow started encroaching on the road. The last 3-500 meters to the Highwood pass sign is all snow and calf deep in places. You will get wet feet! Various people I encountered turned back before the top. The south side was also snow covered as far as I could see. No bear signs up there yet. I had fenders so was able to stay dry on the wet bits. Others on road bikes probably got pretty wet on the descent. Hope that helps!

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490 GordN May 13, 2017 at 11:04 pm

Not sure how much this site page gets monitored now but here goes… Need to move the heel backplate of rossi NNN bindings back a bit on my daughter’s skis. Anyone know how ? Was close to a find on a website called epic ski that looked perfect, but they closed the forum down for good…TODAY!

Gord

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491 Pete May 15, 2017 at 12:50 am

Hi Gord. Is her heel plate designed to click out and slide to different positions or is it the older style with the heel and binding being one part? The newer ones require a small metal lever to release the heel so you can move it to a different position.

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492 GordN May 15, 2017 at 8:54 am

I wish I could post a pic, it’s just the basic unit. so yeah, looks like the heel plate slides back, I can see there’s some kind of pin underneath.

I was poking around the googles, might have to remove the front part first…?

Night owl eh?

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493 Pete May 15, 2017 at 11:50 am

If I had a picture to go with I could give you better advice. You could try bringing them by the Norseman or mec and get their opinion on how to do it.

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494 GordN July 5, 2017 at 1:22 pm

Embarrassed to say it was staring me in the face the whole time. The sticker had come off the heel plate on the ski that I wasn’t “working on” .
Big ol screw holding the heel plate was right there! D’uh.

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495 Henry May 4, 2017 at 8:11 am

Your weather forecast shows that Chuck’s tour might be the last one for the foreseeable future, unless you are going up to some of the icefields, with daytime high temps above 20C, and evenings well above zero.
Question.
What do you all do to while away the days in the off season, before hiking and scrambling start in earnest? Surely not every Calgarian/Canmorovian goes to BC to sea kayak!
I guess that cycling would be one of the choices, or perhaps it’s the time when some of you work on a passionate indoor hobby until the trails dry out?
That having been asked, its going to be below 10C out here in the east for another week, the only upside being that the magnolia trees are staying in bloom very nicely -)

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496 GordN April 27, 2017 at 8:36 pm

There’s a FB post on the Bragg Creek & Kananaskis Outdoor Recreation (BCKOR) about a lost camera….

In case you lost one in the BC area….

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497 Henry April 25, 2017 at 9:06 am

Looks like lots of fresh snow at Sunshine Village, and a huge amount coming in your forecast for this week, especially Friday night.

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498 Ann April 24, 2017 at 2:11 am

Hello everyone

I am putting together a winter holiday in Canada. I am keen on x country skiing, nordic style. Does anyone know of a group I could join for a hut to hut trip or a trip with a base camp and day skiing? Either with a commercial operation or with a club?

I will be travelling alone and I am keen to meet up with a group of like minded people? I have very good endurance for long days, reasonable skiing confidence, though would be keen on some instruction beforehand to get used to the local conditions.

Any help would be much appreciated

Ann
(New Zealand)

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499 Henry April 24, 2017 at 6:26 am

Mind you, this was 25 years ago, but my wife and I enjoyed La Traversee de Charlevoix in Quebec. Six nights, and 105km through nice back country. It more a touring experience. I would say that if the trails haven’t changed, some back country confidence is necessary, and wider skis would be a must. Mind you we started just after a huge snow storm, and had some trail breaking to do! The track is fairly obvious, but there is elevation change. You can carry everything yourself, or have them transport your gear and food. They also do your car shuttle.
They are wonderful people there. We shared the huts with three Montreal firemen, but you can book completely for yourself. The huts hold about 6-12 people if I recall correctly.
https://www.traverseedecharlevoix.qc.ca/

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500 Henry April 24, 2017 at 7:02 am

I should add that at the end of the last day you ski on the maintained X-C trails of the small Malbais ski hill. So, part of your plan could be to stay there at the end and do some skinny skiing! Don’t forget that on the drive up to St. Urbain, you will pass Quebec City, and you’ll want to take advantage of the huge nordic ski trail systems at places like Mont Ste.-Anne.
http://mont-sainte-anne.com/en/winter/cross-country-ski-center/

But heck, what trip to Canada would be complete without a trip to Alberta? You might even get to meet our famous Bob!

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501 Charis Copland April 17, 2017 at 8:35 pm

Hey folks,

Lost a car key in PLPP this afternoon. A single key on a KIA fob. No falls or any obvious place or reason to loose it, but if you are wandering along Fox Creek/Elk Pass/ Patterson/ Hydroline, please keep your eyes open.

Thanks!
charis.copland@gmail.com

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502 Jen Gibson April 12, 2017 at 4:34 pm

Hi,
We are planning on going x-country skiing tomorrow, April 13th, 2017. Curious to know where to take kids x-country skiing either in Banff (preferably) or Canmore where there is plenty of snow. We just went to the Canmore Nordic Centre on Sunday so would prefer a different location in Canmore if possible please.
Thank you in advance.
Jen

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503 Bob Truman April 12, 2017 at 4:52 pm

The only other places with skiable snow would be Lake Louise(Moraine Lake road or the Great Divide), and Peter Lougheed Provincial Park, preferably on the newest grooming.

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504 Cathryn March 26, 2017 at 8:46 pm

Hi Bob! Just wanted to say how variable spring skiing can be as my partner and I had one of the most difficult skis of our lives on Friday at Mount Shark around 2pm. We were skating and it felt like we were wearing classic skis with very unsuitable wax on compared with today at 10 am where conditions were hard packed and much speedier! Of course by noon things were softening up but excellent given the temperature. Great ski day!

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505 Pete March 26, 2017 at 6:37 pm

Hi Bob! Just wondering with regards to the 1000km club are you counting km’s from the start of the season or from January 1st on?

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506 Bob Truman March 26, 2017 at 6:52 pm

From the start of the season. If it was from Jan 1st, I would never have become a member of the club.

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507 Pete March 26, 2017 at 7:30 pm

I’m sure you’re more then capable Bob!

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508 Jennifer March 23, 2017 at 6:02 pm

Hey folks!!

I have been out of commission for cross country skiing all season and am now ready to go out for as much skiing as I can get before the season ends. Has anyone been out to the great divide lately? The website lists Conditions as fair. Is it very icy? How about the Canmore nordic centre? I’m looking for some good quality tracks within a few hours drive from calgary. Any suggestions?

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509 Doug March 17, 2017 at 2:09 pm

I haven’t seen any recent updates on the Lake O’Hara fire road. Parks Canada said there was evidence of avalanches on the road, but didn’t provide advice on whether I should ski it. The news is saying the conditions are ripe for avalanches throughout the back-country. Can anyone provide advice or a recent trail report?
It would be much appreciated.

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510 Pete March 17, 2017 at 2:24 pm

Parks is advising avoiding all avalanche terrain including run-outs as anything that comes down is running full path. Saturday it’s rated as extreme danger at and above tree line and high below. There’s a few large run outs on lake O’hara road that cross the road so I wouldn’t risk going near them. I’d check Avalanche.ca for more info.

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511 Hugh March 17, 2017 at 2:34 pm

Doug Avalanche Canada lists Banff and Yoho as HIGH HIGH HIGH today and EXTREME EXTREME HIGH tomorrow. It’s safe to say (probably the wrong word) that there will be avalanches in the back country. Conditions appear to be ripe for avalanches to rip new paths as well. Even in Canmore we’ve seen spontaneous releases on Lawrence Grassi.
Lake O’hara has had at least two slide down to cover the road along traditional paths.Do you want to risk it whether or not Parks gives you advice? If you go ,Avi gear and the knowledge to how to use it is essential. More importantly knowledge of where you should be or not as you ski along. Be safe. I’d be skiing the Divide Pipestone, Moraine if I was out that way.

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512 Pete March 17, 2017 at 2:52 pm

Just read on the banff park avalanche report “30mm of precipitation Saturday with 100km/hr winds in the alpine” Yikes! You might want to go for a stroll in downtown Banff or Canmore instead!

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513 Normand March 17, 2017 at 3:51 pm

About 25 yrs ago, I had seen an old x-c ski trail map from PLPP, showing a potential avalanche path onto the Tyrwhitt ski trail. Quite feasible to have a runnout of avalanche debris reaching the x-c ski trail, coming down the Lewis Range, from Mt Pocaterra to Mt Tyrwhitt spine. No different from slides coming off Pilot Mtn onto the Red Earth Creek trail. Most people are unaware of this. Given this, I would likely not ski Tyrwhitt between Elk Pass and Whiskey Jack this weekend, but that is only me in spite of my risk tolerance being high. Stay stay either way.

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514 Normand March 17, 2017 at 3:55 pm

Forgot to mention, on Google Earth, one can clearly see at least 4 runnouts from the Lewis Range, all the way to the Tyrwhitt trail.

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515 Pete March 17, 2017 at 5:20 pm

A number of years ago an avalanche actually did reach the tyrwhitt trail but like you say most people wouldn’t realize it would be possible. Even the steep slopes on the sides of trails like elk pass have potential to bury a person(s) in these conditions.

516 Pete March 17, 2017 at 5:34 pm

Actually if you search “Tyrwhitt avalanche” on this site there’s a write up about it.

It occurred April 2012. Although it was near the end of the season, they were still grooming in PLPP and had to refrain from doing Tyrwhitt. Here’s the link Tyrwhitt Avalanche -Bob

517 barb banff March 16, 2017 at 3:46 pm

thanks. sorry 4 dumb question. i never go to CNC mail! just live grooming.
it might be the best place to ski for a while!

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518 bonnie March 16, 2017 at 8:17 am

Me and some other ladies are off for a xc ski trip this tuesday March 21. Where is our best bet for safe and good skiing – given the avalanche warnings and higher temps? We are all about intermediate level.

We have done lots of kananaskis village trails, looking to expand.

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519 Helen Read March 16, 2017 at 11:44 am

In these kind of Spring-like conditions, my recommendations would always be going wherever the most recent grooming has occurred, eg. Elk Pass/Blueberry just done and whatever is newly tracked out at Lk Louise way, but the snow was so wet, it is difficult for groomers. “Planned” grooming is for Moraine Lake Rd and Great Divide. Waxless would be my choice of ski, unless you are good at waxing in these kind of temperatures. Have a terrific w/e. It is nearing the end of the season (for me anyways).

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520 barb banff March 15, 2017 at 11:52 pm

Does anyone know how to find out what trails will be affected by the cross country races starting this weekend ?
CNC website has no information.
Thanks

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521 Bob Truman March 16, 2017 at 8:11 am

This is what’s been posted on the CNC Trail Report:

EVENT NOTE: Cross Country Ski Nationals are taking place from March 18 – 25th. Closures will include Olympic, Centennial, King of Sweden, Osprey and parts of Meadowview and Coyote.

Expect the parking lot to be congested during this time. We highly recommend taking Roam Transit on the weekend.

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522 GordN March 10, 2017 at 6:04 pm

Speaking of Blueberry last weekend, I recall way way back (Toko ski wax from the Bay, stickers price tags kinda way way back) that it was a really narrow twisty trail? Or would that have been Skogan?…I’m thinking maybe 1987,,ish?

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523 Jeff March 10, 2017 at 6:53 pm

Hi Gord
If you go back even further to when x-country ski pants were wool knickers and bindings had 3 pins with a wire gate to hold you onto your wooden skis . Skogan Pass went through the middle of where Nakiska is now. The trail though was always a power line access road with a large metal tube gate just above the Skogan Loop jct. Beyond the gate the trail always felt very narrow because it had grown in. We used a D4 cat around 1987 to reroute the trail to what is now known as the “screamer” all the way to the bottom.

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524 GordN March 11, 2017 at 8:34 am

I still wear the wool pants! LOL, see my pic on the home page last Sunday, OK, good to know, I remember getting the pants scared off me coming down that.

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525 Keith March 8, 2017 at 5:16 pm

Hi Bob,
The old PLPP xc ski map shows the length of Whiskey Jack at 4.3 km. The new map shows it to be 3.4 km. Is there a mistake on the new map.
I know you have spent time reviewing this distance.
Keith

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526 Rap Perrott March 8, 2017 at 8:29 pm

Keith,
My GPS generally shows Whiskey Jack at 3.3km
Ray

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527 Bob Truman March 8, 2017 at 11:08 pm

I consistently get 3.4K from the Moraine junction, and 3.8 from the Boulton Creek parking lot.

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528 Diana Piggott March 9, 2017 at 8:13 am

Thank you for that clarification, Bob!
I notice that some maps show Whiskey Jack beginning at the Boulton Bridge parking lot, and wonder if that explains the difference?

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529 Jennifer March 5, 2017 at 10:22 pm

Does anyone know what Shaganappi is like? I can’t find any info posted after Feb. 11.

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530 Jody March 5, 2017 at 7:55 am

Gold For Canada!
Kudos to Alex Harvey for an amazing race and the gold medal in the 50k at the World Championships in Finland. A record was set in the process for the fastest 50k race at 1:46:28.9.

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531 Jody March 5, 2017 at 7:58 am

If anyone wants to watch this exciting race, it will likely show up on the Skiing Vinnie youtube channel later today.

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532 fallsalot March 5, 2017 at 5:06 pm

That is awesome, I’ve heard on the radio coming back from LL. I will definitely watch it on Youtube but was hoping for a CBC broadcast.

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533 Chuck March 5, 2017 at 6:10 pm
534 Larissa March 3, 2017 at 9:09 am

Has anyone skied at Maple Ridge recently? Just wondering if anyone knows what conditions are like for both classic and skate.

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535 GordN March 2, 2017 at 2:46 pm

Chuck needs his very own “tag”. I’m trying to search one of his reports w/pictures (McArthur ??) to no avail, Even the googs was stumped

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536 Diana Piggott March 3, 2017 at 9:24 am

Look under “Backcountry” trip reports, it is near the top, February 24th 🙂

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537 GordN March 3, 2017 at 11:06 am

aha! Thanks,, It’s lake, not valley!

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538 Anne February 28, 2017 at 9:37 pm

Anybody driving by Pocaterra?
We forgot my son’s skis at Pocaterra on Sunday, Feb 26. They are about 160 cm long, Fisher, NNN binding, waxless, with black Swix poles. They were still there by Sunday night (thank you Pete for noticing !!)
Anybody willing on stopping by and driving them back to Calgary? I don’t have time to get them from Pocaterra before the Lake Louise Loppet upcoming Sunday.
Your help would be greatly appreciated!!
Anne

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539 Steven February 28, 2017 at 6:12 pm

Had a great time skiing at the north end of PLPP on Sunday morning, but encountered several perplexed adults, and at least two asked “But where is POCATERRA?” Obviously they had not skied since the flood.

I found myself wanting to say “This ain’t your mom’s Pocaterra.” I commiserated with them all over the fact that there wasn’t an easy trail out of the Pocaterra lodge anymore. Really though, was there ever an easy trail there? The bowling alley of a hill at the beginning/end of Pocaterra was always a blocker for beginners.

I wish that there was a sign at the lodge saying explicitly that there are NO easy trails at Pocaterra and to point them to Elkwood or William Watson for a better experience.

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540 Pete February 28, 2017 at 6:25 pm

I had the same question from a couple last week. I had to explain to them how the flood changed everything and that pocaterra is a whole new trail (except for the hilly part from the hut you mentioned) and come along uses a section which used to be part of the original pocaterra. Boulton isn’t a beginner trail anymore either as the flood damaged much of the original.

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541 Anne February 28, 2017 at 9:20 am

Lost Skis at Pocaterra!
We forgot my son’s skis at Pocaterra on Sunday, Feb 26. They are about 160 cm long, Fisher, NNN binding, waxless, with black Swix poles.
Anybody seen them?
I already tried the K-Country “lost and found”, but they have not found it.
thanks
Anne

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542 Pete February 28, 2017 at 10:38 am

I briefly walked by the hut late on Sunday afternoon and saw a pair of skis and poles leaning on the ski rack. Couldn’t tell you if they match your missing skis though. There was only one car in the lot at the time. Your best bet would be to drive out there and have a look.

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543 Anne February 28, 2017 at 9:12 pm

Hi Pete,
thank you so much for the info! I might have to go on a drive to check for them and retrieve them.
Anne

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544 Pete February 28, 2017 at 10:07 pm

You’re welcome. I feel bad I didn’t grab them (if they were in fact your sons skis). Hopefully they are still there or some kind person picks them up and returns them to you.

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545 Martin Jones March 1, 2017 at 9:13 am

I plan on a PLPP trip tomorrow, Thursday, if that helps, I live in Bearspaw, Calgary NW

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546 Michael and Annalee February 25, 2017 at 7:16 am

Can anyone hazard a guess on what Cascade fire road would be like for skate today?

It was last groomed on the 23rd and I’m wondering how much loose snow is present.
Thanks,
michael

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547 Bob Truman February 25, 2017 at 7:32 am

Check the Trip Report from HeatherD. She was there yesterday and saw the groomer/tracksetter.

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548 Nancy February 23, 2017 at 1:00 pm

I’m looking for advice on the Goat Creek trail from Canmore to Banff. Is it track set and what are the conditions? We hope to ski it (only one-way) this weekend.
Thanks for your help.

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549 Bob Truman February 23, 2017 at 4:56 pm

Nancy, I went up there today and checked it out for you. I was amazed at what I found. I will give details and photos on tonight’s update.

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550 GordN February 20, 2017 at 11:22 pm

My tip of the day:

Stopped to wax? Skin up?

The dreaded snow “jammed under your boot” syndrome?

Pull out your seat pad ( I use a cut up ’80’s blue sleep foamy) and stand on it! Also slows down the inevitable post holing when you step off.

Tried it today, out off the blue (sky) it came to me. Works like a charm.

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551 MG February 19, 2017 at 4:39 pm

Hi,

What a great website. Planning a visit to the Canmore/Banff area March 26-30. Is that typically too late in the season to find some good XC skiing? Seems like a warm year, here in Manitoba everything is melting. I thought I read somewhere that the late season is better near Lake Louise.

Looking for advice.

Thanks

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552 GordN February 20, 2017 at 11:17 pm

That’s a tough one but maybe look at the archives (by month & year) on the right side of the home page?

We just never know!

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553 Bernardk February 21, 2017 at 6:23 am

I agree with Gord that depending on the year, trails like Great Divide or Moraine Lake can be still okay in Lake Louise at that time. The Canmore Nordic Center is hosting Canadian Nationals March 18-25 so they should still have snow as well on the competition trails

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554 Barry G February 21, 2017 at 5:37 pm

Hi Manitoba. There are usually periods of warm days in the double digits by late March, but frequently there is a brief (1-2 day) final shot of winter. Plan to ski early in the morning on glazed tracks, finishing before things warm up and get soft and very very slow. Waxless skis are advisable, klister too, fluoro glider sure helps me. My records for Peter Lougheed PP and Canmore Nordic Centre follow. Mt Shark will probably and Ribbon Creek will no doubt be finished by then. Lake Louise typically has a bit longer season.
Last day of grooming:
2012 – 7 Apr – PLPP
2013 – 20 Apr – still skiing at CNC albeit skirting patches of bare asphalt
2014 – 20 Apr – PLPP, 1 May – CNC
2015 (el Nino)– 27 Mar –CNC, 5 Apr –PLPP
2016 (el Nino) – 8 Apr –CNC, 10 Apr – PLPP

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555 Tawny February 15, 2017 at 8:17 am

CYPRESS HILLS??
Going out to Cypress (from the Elkwater side) to ski this weekend. I know they trackset on Monday, but I’m hoping someone is out there and can let me know how the tracks are doing in this heat.

Thanks.

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556 RichieRich February 12, 2017 at 11:48 am

re: Bill Milne trail near Kananaskis Lodge

I always wondered who this guy was, what made him important, and how come there was a trail named after him. Guessing I’m not the only one. Anyways came across this random story quite by accident that explains answers to the first 2 questions… does anyone know the answer to the 3rd?

In short: Bill was the architect for the Calgary Tower when built in 1960’s.

http://www.calgarysun.com/2017/02/11/fifty-years-to-month-after-calgary-tower-began-may-be-time-to-reach-higher

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557 Rose February 12, 2017 at 1:20 pm

I’m pretty sure that there is a sign with info about him at the bridge over the Kananaskis river leading into the village area. This seems to match what I read: https://hermis.alberta.ca/paa/Details.aspx?ObjectID=PR2982.0009&dv=True&deptID=1

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558 Bob Truman February 12, 2017 at 6:34 pm

You can read the wording on the plaque on this update I posted last year Thank you Bill Milne

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559 GordN February 13, 2017 at 7:04 am

speaking of names, who the heck is Soapy Smith??!

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560 Henry February 13, 2017 at 8:00 am

That’s a great name. Doesn’t appear to have a Canadian connection, or am I mistaken?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soapy_Smith

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561 GordN February 13, 2017 at 9:56 am
562 Barry G February 13, 2017 at 5:55 pm

Apparently Soapy Smith founded Rafter 6. Interesting to see the different info in these two sources:

http://www.raftersix.com/ranch-info/history-of-the-brand

Rafter Six Ranch History
In the 1880s Colonel James Walker of the Northwest Mounted Police (NWMP) established a rough line shack, and pastured and bred horse’s on the land that today is Rafter Six Ranch. The Mounties eventually moved their horse operations closer to Calgary, and next into the area was an old Trapper and Mountain Man, called Soapy Smith. Soapy was quite a character, and in addition to having a rep’ as a man who never sold a good horse, he had an eye for the ladies. In his mid seventies, Soapy took a teen aged wife, Eva, and together they homesteaded the land and took rich clients on guided hunting trips.
Soapy and Eva operated the guest ranch, and housed their guests in tents, teepees, a small log lodge. Cabins were added as the years went by. Soapy died in the late 1930s, and Eva remarried and operated the ranch right up until Stan Cowley bought the ranch in 1976. A half-diamond over the number six – is what is called a rafter six in branding lingo. After acquiring the Ranch, the original horse brand was registered to Stan Cowley. The Tradition continues. . . .

http://mdbighorn.ca/pdfs/Rafter-Six-SOS-FINAL-Oct-15-2015.pdf

Rafter Six Ranch was first established by Herbert
Alonzo “Soapy” Smith (who changed his last
name from Scott), born in 1878 in Vermont,
who began working for the Brewster brothers in
1905 as a harness maker and later as a guide.
Soapy, who immigrated to Canada in 1904,
worked part of the season as a guider, and then
leased land for horse ranching in the Jumping
Pound district with his half-brother Fred Scott.
Herbert registered the Rafter Six horse brand,
which was placed on the horse’s right shoulder,
in circa 1914. He maintained ownership
of the brand until his death in 1948. In the
1920s, Herbert leased a plot of land adjacent
to the Kananaskis River from the provincial
government that would later become Rafter
Six Ranch. There he built a small vernacular
log cabin near the river, which was later badly
damaged in a spring flood. Together with his
partner, Eva Alice Coates (1915-1976), who
would became his wife in 1934, established
Rafter Six Ranch as a horse ranch with guiding
services offered to interested parties.
Herbert’s skill with ranching was unparalleled
in the area; however, his great love was guiding
and outfitting, and after he established Rafter Six Ranch he slowly began to develop the site
for guests.

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563 GordN February 13, 2017 at 8:39 pm

That’s awesome, I think that trumps Pocaterra’s story!

564 Pete February 13, 2017 at 9:09 pm

It’s a shame the old ranch building was torn down recently by the new owners. There was a lot of history in that old building.

565 Diana Piggott February 13, 2017 at 10:55 pm

Bizarre. So there were at least two completely different Soapy Smiths??

566 Henry February 15, 2017 at 8:31 am

That’s great detective work. What great history.
Indeed, what a difference between the two accounts.
The one has him dying in the late 1930’s while the other has him marrying in ’34. That’s possible, I guess.

567 joe February 11, 2017 at 11:58 am

I was hoping to do some skate skiing on Bill Milne tomorrow but it looks as though it hasn’t been groomed since the last snowfall. Anybody have an update? Just wondering if there is several cm of snow on top of the grooming, making for slow conditions. Thank you in advance for any updates/advice!

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568 JeremyN February 10, 2017 at 1:34 pm

RE:PLPP -found an old map from when I skied there LAST century (ya I’m a map hound), and noticed the trail called LIONEL which took off south from sounding lake /pocaterra and rejoined it b/w packers & wj. Anyone know why parks doesn’t trackset that anymore (maybe b/c wildlife corridor?). If not it would be a nice alternative given pressure pocaterra sees on weekends. Thx.

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569 Alf Skrastins February 10, 2017 at 5:48 pm

The Lionel trail is Hwy #40, south of the winter gates. It was groomed because… the road already exists, it is gentle and perfect for novice skiers and it is wide enough to groom for skate skiing (think Moraine Lake Road).
The grooming ended with the Ralph Klein cut-backs. There has been no extra money for Alberta Parks, so the grooming of Lionel was never re-started.

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570 JeremyN February 10, 2017 at 6:44 pm

Thanks Alf. That is also what I suspected -I’ll have to take that pocaterra ‘off-shoot’ coming north of wj coming sometime and enjoy a fresh road decent down for a change. Cheers.

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571 barb banff February 7, 2017 at 10:35 pm

lake o’hara
does any know if it’s been trackset yet- and/or
what day it’s usually done? i’m thinking it might have been
on Thursday?

It was trackset on Thursday but would be covered with fresh snow. Should be done again this Thursday. – Bob

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572 Donna January 28, 2017 at 12:41 pm

Hi, has anyone been skiing at Emerald Lake Lodge? What are the conditions like? Can anyone help with this? Thanks

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573 Bob Truman January 28, 2017 at 4:26 pm

Willski was at Emerald Lake yesterday and did a blog update complete with photos. http://willski.ca/emerald-lake-cross-country-ski-trails/

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574 Aldona January 27, 2017 at 10:19 am

Our group from Regina is wondering if Goat Creek is doable tomorrow? Any reports?

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575 Bob Truman January 27, 2017 at 11:00 am

We haven’t had any recent reports, and I’m surmising that’s because nobody is skiing it. After the meltdown, we’ve had no new snow, so it’s probably very icy and borderline dangerous.

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576 Tammy January 25, 2017 at 7:31 pm

Anyone know what the current conditions at Mt Shark are. Thinking of going there this weekend. hasn’t been groomed in a week and no fresh snow. Wondering what the melting has been or if the base has kept fairly well.

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577 Bob Truman January 25, 2017 at 7:39 pm

Check Helen Read’s trip report. She was there today. It’s usually groomed on Thursday nights.

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578 Tammy January 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm

Thanks Bob! Very helpful. First time using your site. Will definitely make more use of it. Lots to navigate through but figuring it out. Will check out Mt Shark this weekend

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579 Hugh January 24, 2017 at 4:12 pm

I know this is an XC site VS backcountry but this is of interest to all of us. I’ve talked to folks who were in Avi terrain on snowshoes or touring/ skinny skis who told me they didn’t go on avalanche slopes!
“Lindsey Corrigan is no stranger to the mountains. Born and raised in Revelstoke, the daughter of guide Buck Corrigan, she’s spent a lot time in the backcountry.

Last Tuesday, Jan. 17, she was caught by surprise when she and her partner Trent Kidd triggered an avalanche while out for a dog walk at Carnes Creek campground north of Revelstoke.”

http://www.revelstokereview.com/news/411565315.html

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580 GordN January 23, 2017 at 10:32 pm
581 Rose January 23, 2017 at 9:44 pm

We skied Pipestone on Saturday and came across the two old cabins on the Merlin trail. We were wondering if anybody knew the story of them?

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582 fallsalot January 22, 2017 at 11:57 am

Canada’s men team is on the roll. Today in 4×7.5 km relay Canada takes bronze( almost silver). Congrats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQkuaV2V4Uk

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583 Henry January 23, 2017 at 8:16 am

Thanks for sharing. What a strong finish! Wonderful to watch.

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584 Christine January 21, 2017 at 8:19 pm

Tried to ski up to the Ink Pots towards Larry’s Camp but conditions were hard and icy. So many walkers had been on the trail that it was very fast coming down so we kept our skins on. We followed the trail a short distance beyond the Ink Pots (about 1 km) before returning. More snow needed.

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585 fallsalot January 21, 2017 at 6:54 pm

Wow, another gold for Canada in cross country world cup competition. This time Alex Harvey wins in 15 km freestyle. Congratulation to Alex. Go Canada Go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCJpMekz6Pk

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586 Ania January 19, 2017 at 12:38 pm

Has anyone been to mount shark area lately? What are the conditions of the trails? We were hoping to head down on Sunday – but not planning on ice skating 😉

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587 Jan January 21, 2017 at 7:19 pm

Skied at Mt. Shark today. Conditions are great, with recent tracksetting holding up very well and skaters were enjoying the fresh grooming. High was forecast around -6C, but I think that might have been in the sun, so colder than expected. No wind. Go!

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588 Manfred Kintop January 19, 2017 at 8:46 am

Hi Bob, I noticed that you do not have a link to the Sandy McNabb trail system. Here you go:

https://www.albertaparks.ca/media/3063761/sandy_mcnabb_winter_trails_final_600x600_x65__revised.pdf

Thanks, I’ve added it to the maps menu. -Bob

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589 Catherine January 17, 2017 at 6:48 pm

Hi
Where near Okotoks would you suggest a total novice skier goes for their first time out?

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590 Peter January 17, 2017 at 6:09 pm

Does anyone know what condition Lake O’Hara Road is in?

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591 Barbara January 17, 2017 at 6:11 pm

I went there yesterday, but didn’t end up skiing it because it looked pretty beat up. It’s not trackset yet and had seen all the use from the weekend. It snowed a fair bit here today, so I’d guess that everything is snow-covered without tracks now.

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592 GordN January 17, 2017 at 9:46 am

Some interesting tips in this video and in the comments too.

Anyone seen electric socks??

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593 GordN January 17, 2017 at 9:48 am
594 ute January 15, 2017 at 7:05 pm

Hi All,
I would like to ski Goat Creek this coming Saturday. Wondering if there is a shuttle or taxi service that would take me from Canmore the the trailhead.

Thanks, u

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595 GordN January 17, 2017 at 9:47 am

Maybe try http://bikeandhikeshuttle.com/ ? Not sure if they run in winter or not though

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596 fallsalot January 15, 2017 at 3:04 pm

Canada men team wins gold in Toblach in sprint free style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbTFRoYexI
Congratulation

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597 Hugh January 15, 2017 at 6:13 pm

What a great race!

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598 Rose January 14, 2017 at 7:36 pm

Today we skied Sandy McNabb up the east side of Macabee Loop, up to the Pine Ridge viewpoint then down via Balsam Link and Long Prairie. It seems this is pretty typical of our preferred kind of ski … Lots of work up, with a big reward returning to the trailhead. It made me wonder how many folks prefer this kind of ski compared to more rolling terrain like at Kananaskis Village or Mt Shark. I like both, but it makes for a very different outing.
Ps. All four of us returned to the car with the most amazing grins on our faces!

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599 Lucie January 14, 2017 at 10:34 am

Is there any way to find out what trails are track-set in Calgary and where they are? I heard that South Glenmore Park has something, but cannot find any reliable info. Unlike info about trails in the mountains, I am not sure where to have a good info source re: Calgary. Thank you!

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600 Bob Truman January 14, 2017 at 10:54 am

Besides the Foothills Ski Club link for Confed and Canmore Park, as far as I know, this is all there is

http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Parks/Pages/Locations/Cross-country-skiing.aspx

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601 Rose January 14, 2017 at 7:28 pm

The city has been grooming Maple Ridge and it is really good. To find out where the city has trackset at South Glenmore, I suggest calling 311

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602 Manfred Kintop January 17, 2017 at 11:36 am

The city has track-set a trail running from the tennis courts at South Glenmore Park (where the marina is off 24th) west to the parking lot close to the Weaslehead access @ Oakmont drive and 90th. Last week it was in great shape but as of this writing..your guess is as good as mine!

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603 joe January 12, 2017 at 7:30 pm

Hi everybody
I am new to skate skiing and had a question about trail use. Based on trail descirptions, some trails are said to have skate lane, and others are designated as classic. But when I look at photos I see groomed lanes as wide or wider than on others that are designated skate trails. For example, somebody from work says that there are skate skiing options on some of the trails at Peter Lougheed, but I haven’t read that in trail descriptions. Moose Connector is said to have skate lane on trail descriptions, but I find it barely wide enough to skate. Am I missing something here? Is it taboo to skate on these trails? Are there some unwritten rules that skiers understand when it comes to skate skiing?

Great blog; thanks to Bob and contributors for sharing reports and information with fellow skiers!

Joe

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604 dan January 9, 2017 at 3:00 pm

Does anyone know if the Lake O’Hara fire road is trackset yet, and if not, when it might be this year? Thank you

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605 Bob Truman January 9, 2017 at 4:21 pm

This question gets asked a lot. The tracksetting is done by Lake O’Hara Lodge, and they will trackset the trail when the lodge opens, usually the last week in January.

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606 helen Read January 9, 2017 at 6:22 pm

Lodge does open on February 2nd. I have a letter from Alison stating so. This means Bruce and staff will be getting the road ready likely a few days prior to their re-opening on that Thursday. Best for skiers to keep sending in their reports and then we will know EXACTLY!!!

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607 Laura January 8, 2017 at 3:38 pm

Hi there! I’m looking for some etiquette help on the single tracks at PLPP (e.g. Moraine, Fox Creek). I noticed there is a sign reading “One Way” sort of by the north end of Moraine (around campsites). Does this mean the xc ski trail is a one way and if so what way is it to be skiied? Or two way traffic, yield to downhill skiers? I have had a couple of near misses and find it tough to jump out of tracks on a downhill, particularly on some of the narrow sections.

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608 Martin Jones January 8, 2017 at 3:57 pm

I don’t know of any ‘one-way’ skiing @ PLPP or anywhere else for that matter, I think the sign you’re referring to is a summer traffic sign for the camp site.

As always, yield to the downhill skier, on the flats play chicken and see who blinks first !

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609 Laura January 9, 2017 at 8:43 am

Thank you! Some of those trails get pretty narrow and I wanted to make sure I wasn’t in the wrong 🙂

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610 Martin Jones January 4, 2017 at 10:52 am

Interested to hear grip wax tips/tricks whilst on the trail, in particular how to apply apply wax in cold temps. My own experience is it’s really tough to crayon on cold wax onto a cold ski, for sure warming the wax and drying the ski would help, but how?

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611 pat davis January 5, 2017 at 12:20 pm

Try keeping the wax you think you are likely to want to use inside your clothing and under the insulating layer. Works for me.

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612 Shulamit January 5, 2017 at 12:36 pm

I keep a lighter and/or matches and candle in my kit. I’m interested to hear about other ideas too.

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613 Alf Skrastins January 4, 2017 at 9:23 am

West Bragg Creek live weather info:
The weather at the West Bragg Creek trails is often different from both Calgary and the Canmore/Kananaskis area. Fortunately, there are two “Weather Underground” personal weather stations near the WBC trails, which will provide you with current conditions.
https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IALBERTA258 This station is located just east of the West Bragg Creek parking lot at about the same elevation as the Crystal Line trails.
https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IALBERTA459 The second station is located at ridge-top north-west of the parking lot, at about the same elevation as Long Distance, Merlin View and Ranger Summit trails.
It is currently -32 at Lake Louise, -31 in Banff, -19 C in Kananaskis and -12C at West Bragg Creek. It’s certainly worthwhile to know how to find the better weather!

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614 Bob Truman January 4, 2017 at 9:35 am

Thanks, Alf. I added one of those to the Weather menu.

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615 Dan January 3, 2017 at 3:30 pm

Hello there

I am visiting Alberta (lake louise) in March and really want to catch a glimpse of Moraine Lake but am aware of the road closures. I have read up on the cross country ski route but as a novice skier and outsider of Canada, wouldn’t have a clue where to start! Would someone be interested in helping me or guiding me on this route? (Happy to pay!)
Please, any advice would be greatly appreciated

Thankyou!

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616 Chuck January 3, 2017 at 5:02 pm

Hello Dan,
Do you realize that Moraine Lake will still be frozen, and covered in snow in March?
You should also know that while the first 9 km up to the viewpoint is fairly straight forward, the last 3 km down to the lake exposes you to a significant avalanche path and is not groomed.
Wondering why you ‘want to catch a glimpse of Moraine Lake’, and why you are coming in March?
I am sure our blog community can give you some good advice!

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617 Pete January 3, 2017 at 9:29 pm

I agree with Chuck. If you are a novice skier going solo I wouldn’t chance crossing the avalanche slopes before the lake. They are large and can’t be crossed quickly enough especially if you are breaking trail across them. They also tend to slide more often that time of year as the temperature goes up. You could try finding a guided ski to the lake, perhaps from the university of Calgary outdoor centre, or other organization that runs trips around lake Louise. At least then you would be part of a larger group. Or go in the summer when the lake is visible (but then you have to deal with the hazardous hordes of tourists!).

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618 Dan January 4, 2017 at 12:15 am

Hey Pete,

Thanks the advice too!

Yeh not gonna risk the avalanche bit! As i said to Chuck, simply being able to view the area from a safe distance would be perfect.

I will definitly try and contact the university and see if any kind soul would be willing to help

Thanks again!

Dan

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619 Dan January 4, 2017 at 12:13 am

Hey Chuck!
Thanks for the advice!

I am aware it will be frozen over, to be honest, i think its a glimpse of the ten peaks i would like to see.
Can you ski down to a viewpoint did i read correctly?
I don’t want to get right down to the lake as such, just a glimpse of the area would be magical.
Unfortunately March was the only time i could go

Thanks

Dan

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620 Chuck January 4, 2017 at 9:03 am

Hi Dan,
That clarification means good news for you. The viewpoint to get a ‘glimpse of the ten peaks’ is easy to get to. The viewpoint is at the 9 km mark at the end of the trail grooming and the actual high elevation point along this road.
The easy way to get relevant information on this straight forward trip is to type ‘Moraine Lake’ into the Search field in the top right hand corner of this Blog (just under the banner).

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621 Dan January 4, 2017 at 2:32 pm

Chuck, that is fantastic news! As an outsider of Canada its so hard to get a genuine understanding of the place.

I have emailed the University of Calgary Outdoor Centre, and got a quote back of $500 for me and my girlfriend to have a guide for the day (inc ski equipment), does this seem a fair price?

appreciate it!

Dam

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622 GordN January 7, 2017 at 12:30 pm

Wow, seems a lot, to me anyway. Test the waters on meetup.com and see if there’s anybody heading out. Use Calgary Banff and Canmore as your search areas and search outdoor, and or cross country groups. Also there’s Julie from Full circle adventures, I think she’s under the resource tab at the top of the page. There’s the Calgary Outdoor club too but if your only in town briefly that may not match up

623 Martin January 2, 2017 at 7:35 pm

Is it possible to ski from Lake Louise village to the Pipestone loop? Is it necessary to make a mad dash across the highway when no one is looking.

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624 Barb banff January 2, 2017 at 9:47 pm

Complicated but- –go down tramline to bridge and station restaurant- take Skis off – walk across rr tracks, down to road, turn left, walk 200 m west to end of govt. compound where there’s a highway pedestrian overpass which might have packed snow from tracksetters skidoos.
You come out across from Pipestone parking lot.

Alternatively from bridge at bottom of tramline there’s (might not be set yet) a trail that goes to east to mall, village area then back west along rr tracks past post hotel, hostle to the same end at compound area.

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625 Martin January 2, 2017 at 10:27 pm

Thanks Barb, I’ll give it a go

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626 Nancy January 2, 2017 at 8:06 am

I’m sitting here thinking to myself “when is it too cold to ski?”. Please share your experience skiing in the coldest of temperatures and what layering method works for you in these conditions?

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627 Bob Truman January 2, 2017 at 8:21 am

Check today’s update, or go directly to this recent posting and read the 22 comments from readers http://skierbob.ca/2016/12/cold-weather-gear/

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628 Nancy January 2, 2017 at 8:27 am

Thanks. I’ll know after today what works for me. Going to head to CNC where I can take refuge if it’s too brutally cold to ski.

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629 barb banff January 1, 2017 at 7:03 pm

CNC
anyone braved the Bow – meadowlark trails that were allegedly trackset last night? rated ‘fair’ wonder how bad?
TXS

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630 Peter L January 1, 2017 at 10:55 am

We had a great ski up on the Pipestone Loop yesterday (December 31st)… One thing we noticed was an EXTREME lack of animal tracks (rabbits, rodents, fox, etc.) compared to skiing within the Kananaskis (PLPP/Elk Pass) area… Does anyone know why (or want to speculate)? Is it due to the predator/prey ratio or is something else going on in BNP?

Curious?

Peter

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631 Barb banff January 1, 2017 at 11:08 pm

Well that is an interesting question. I lived in LL from 1996 to 2009 and skied the Pipestone multiple times a week. Back then the tracksetting was once every 2 weeks at Best. I rarely saw more that a couple people on the trail and the parking lot was NEVER full. Skiers with dog were the minority.
It was my favorite place to ski because, unlike the trails on other side of the valley, seeing wildlife sign or tracks was common. Lynx, wolves, hare and even wolverine.
Of course wildlife activity comes and goes,and there is some cycling with hare but my opinion is that the observed decline is a result of a large increase in human use.

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632 cat December 29, 2016 at 7:15 pm

We’re thinking of going up to Boom lake tomorrow, but we’re unsure of conditions. Can anyone comment? Thanks!

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633 Tracee Bersani Collins December 28, 2016 at 7:10 pm

Hi Bob
What are the conditions at Pocaterra now- Alberta parks and website says groomed but is it decent?
Thanks!

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634 John December 28, 2016 at 12:16 pm

What’s the scoop on the x-country trails at Norquay? I see signage up there but have never seen anyone on skinny skis?

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635 Chuck December 29, 2016 at 8:09 pm

Hi John,
Check out today’s Trip Report.
Thanks for the encouragement!

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636 John December 30, 2016 at 8:41 am

Thx for the detailed trip report Chuck. Your pictures make it look very enticing.

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637 Helen Read December 28, 2016 at 8:10 am

Has anyone been up to Sundance Lodge as yet? Am sure Chuck or Skier Bob will be headed that way in the near future or anyone else?
Also to answer Yuri’s question: suggest move up holiday to mid March. I noted last year: the last grooming of Moraine Lk Rd was April 10th, PLPP April 5th, Mt Shark end of March, and CNC closed prematurely Mar 27th. I usually hang up my skis by first week in April.

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638 Bob Truman December 28, 2016 at 9:15 am

Good advice for Yuri.

As for Brewster Creek and Sundance Lodge, I’m going to take a break from rock picking for a while. The Banff trail report shows it’s been trackset but rated “Poor,” also known as “Rocky Road.”

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639 Yuri December 27, 2016 at 5:45 pm

Average closing season for nordic center? Kananaskis? Looking to travel april 20, likely to be open/groomed???

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640 GordN December 28, 2016 at 12:06 pm

That’d be pushing it I’d think.

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641 Leah December 27, 2016 at 4:57 pm

Has anyone seen a groomed run at bowness park in Calgary? I see they are supposed to have it this year on the website that is groomed by the city. Any idea where the trail might be or go ?

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642 Diana Piggott December 28, 2016 at 8:50 am

I have never seen a groomed trail at Bowness Park, though I have skied randomly around the park. I will look next time I am there. The whole park has been re-built since the flood.

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643 pat davis December 26, 2016 at 12:42 pm

No-one skiing or snowshoeing the Chester Lake area? Anyone have any info?

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644 Marc December 25, 2016 at 5:20 pm

First time skijoring with our 1 year old 75 lb Aussie Cattle Dog mix and I am hooked. So is he 🙂

Anyone know of any informal groups / clubs that do this sport or any others on here want to meet up to do this near Calgary / Bragg Creek and the surrounding areas?

Thanks in advance.

Marc

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645 Zoe December 25, 2016 at 9:51 am

I am in Calgary today and tomorrow with a set of skate skis! Could someone recommend their favourite place in the Rockies that’s appropriate for some skate skiing? Easy to get to and beginner/intermediate trails? Thank you 🙂

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646 Alf Skrastins December 25, 2016 at 10:13 am

The West Bragg Creek trails are your closest option from Calgary. The trails just got a bunch of new snow and were groomed on Dec 24. The skate trails include east and west Crystal Line, Sundog, Moose Connector and Mountain Road.

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647 Bob Truman December 25, 2016 at 10:17 am

If you want to venture further than West Bragg Creek, Canmore Nordic Centre has about 10K of trails in excellent condition on their man-made snow and all are groomed for skate-skiing.

Upper Bankhead in Banff is an easy trail, 4.6K return from Lake Minnewanka, groomed for skating and classic. While there, you could also give Cascade Valley a try, but there is a big hill at the start which climbs about 100 metres over a distance of 1.5K.

Further yet, but worth the drive, the Great Divide at Lake Louise is very easy, and about 15K return with options to go further. Moraine Lake road at LL is a bit more difficult with another one of those long hills.

Have fun!

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648 Zoe December 25, 2016 at 10:49 am

Thanks so much for your prompt and helpful replies! I appreciate it!

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649 hugh December 24, 2016 at 12:38 pm

For Bob: here is the latest from Parks on how they are managing the Spray River /Goat Creek loops. Seems to be well thought out.

http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/pn-np/ab/banff/visit/~/media/pn-np/ab/banff/pdf/2016_hiver-spray-winter_en.ashx

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650 Bob Truman December 25, 2016 at 10:23 am

That’s an excellent plan that should eliminate a lot of conflict. Can’t wait for some snow to put it to use!

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651 Philippe December 19, 2016 at 4:49 pm

Has anybody skied Red Earth Creek today Monday or even yesterday Sunday the 18th. Still track set to the junction? I’d like to to make the trip to Egypt Lake if conditions are good.

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652 Bob Truman December 19, 2016 at 5:29 pm

Skied Redearth today. It’s in great shape and no more rocks on the first K. 5 cm of new snow since it was trackset. Tracks are still well-defined and quite fast. Downhills are safe with all the new snow. Will have some photos later.

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653 Martin Jones December 19, 2016 at 3:19 pm

I ski and hike alone, I do carry bear spray, but don’t have any concerns about wildlife, I feel perfectly safe in popular areas even when I don’t see another soul for hours. Driving to and from the ski area is a very different matter!

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654 Nancy December 19, 2016 at 3:07 pm

Do you ski by yourself? I will visit next week, and I will spend part of the time skiing by myself on the Lake Louise and Emerald Lake trails. Do you worry about wildlife? Do you carry bear spray? Thank you in advance for your help!

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655 Derek December 19, 2016 at 8:08 am

Hi. I’m planning a XC ski vacation. Ski in-ski out suits our family situation the best. In the past we have either gone to Silver Star, Kimberley, or Canmore (not quite ski in/out). I’m wonder about Kananaskis Village area as a possibility. Maps seem to show a network of trails. I’m wondering about ease of access from the hotel without driving, amount of skate sking available, and anything else of interest to a nordic skier. Thanks for the ideas.

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656 Bob Truman December 19, 2016 at 8:27 am

The first time I ever skied was from a hotel at Kananaskis Village. If I hadn’t gone for that weekend, I may never have skied to this day. To your question, you might have to walk for two minutes to get to the trailhead for Terrace trail. Skate skiing is available on the Bill Milne trail and Wedge connector, also within easy walking distance from the hotels if you start at the Village(you would have a speedy downhill to start, but a big climb to end the day).

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657 Lindsey December 18, 2016 at 5:00 pm

Hey Bob! My friend and I are going to Kananaskis for a few days over the holidays to do some skiing. I am decent skier and she has never tried. We are looking for some easier trails to get us going. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

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658 GordN December 18, 2016 at 11:32 pm

If you are going to the hotels there, you’ll find lots in the immediate vicinity, if you head south consider this link:
http://skierbob.ca/plpp-trail-descriptions/

Also, on the way into the Park via Highway 40 (if enroute to the hotels) you’ll pass the Barrier Lake visitors information centre, stop in there as well.

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659 Bob Truman December 19, 2016 at 8:19 am

Check out this link for novice skiers. I stress that snow and trail conditions should be your first concern. http://www.tourismcanmore.com/blog/beginners-guide-to-cross-country-ski-trails-in-canmore-and-kananaskis

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660 Lindsey Stringer December 20, 2016 at 10:37 pm

Thanks a bunch!!

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661 Anne Prendergast December 18, 2016 at 2:48 pm

Hi.
We are arriving from Ottawa on December 27th to spend New Years in Canmore and would like to ski goat creek trail to Banff. How are the conditions at present and does anyone have any suggestions as to how we could get back to Canmore/our car to avoid having to ski the trail in both directions?

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662 Hugh December 18, 2016 at 7:25 pm

There is the Bow Valley Roam Bus http://roamtransit.com/schedules-routes/banff-canmore-regional-route-three/
You can get from Banff to Canmore and the NEW Bus service in Canmore will get you around.Canmore. However getting either to or from trailhead above Canmore is problematic. Either Taxi/Rental car or Rental car/taxi. ( if you are renting a car.)

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663 Bob Truman December 18, 2016 at 7:44 pm

Goat Creek needs more snow. Hopefully in the next nine days it will arrive. I’ll be the first one to ski it if we get enough snow, so stay tuned.

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664 GordN December 17, 2016 at 9:08 pm

Do we have list of rental places in the Valley and the city (ies)? Specifically for x-country gear?

I’d post it if someone wants to compile it. -Bob

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665 GordN December 18, 2016 at 9:05 am

I can. So I know, so far,
Kananaskis outfitters. Château Lake Louise, Wilson Mountain Sports.

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666 Pete December 18, 2016 at 12:11 pm

In Canmore there’s Trail sports at the Canmore nordic center and Gear up mountain sports and rentals. In Calgary the U of C Outdoor center, sports rent, and the Norsemen ski shop.

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667 Pete December 18, 2016 at 12:29 pm

I’ll also add Banff Adventures, Snowtips-Bactrax in Banff. In the Edmonton area Strathcona Wilderness centre, Totem outfitters. In Jasper
Pure outdoors, Totem ski shop, and Jasper source for sports. Also Mec stores rent cross country ski equipment also.

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668 sheila December 18, 2016 at 6:10 pm

Believe it or not, the little hardware store in Bragg Creek has a small supply of x-country skies, boots and poles for rent. It is called Country Hardware and young fellow at the till told me he has not yet rented out a pair this season. Either only fully outfitted skiers head to WBC or people are unaware that they can rent from this local store.

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669 pat davis December 19, 2016 at 8:06 am

I have no experience with any others but I received information and service that I rate as Above and Beyond from Trail Sports at the CNC.

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670 Marc December 17, 2016 at 12:22 pm

Can anyone recommend a good flat location to practise skijorning within 2 hours of calgary?

Many thanks in advance.

Marc

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671 Pete December 17, 2016 at 5:17 pm

I’d say your best bet is the Mount Shark trail system south of Canmore off the Smith dorrien road. I’ve seen a number of people skijouring there in the past. Right off the parking lot there’s a large flat area you can practice. You could also follow the trail to Watridge lake which is more hilly. It’s possible you could do it on sections of road that are closed in the winter in Kananaskis country. You should contact Alberta parks to see if that’s allowed however. There’s a list of closed roads on the Alberta parks website. Hopefully that helps you out a bit!

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672 Martin Jones December 18, 2016 at 8:38 am

Sadly I lost my Siberian Husky a couple of years ago but we used to have wonderful adventures skijorning , I can recommend the terrace @ Nakiska for an easy place to start.
The really great news is we’ll be getting another Husky very soon 🙂

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673 Martin Jones December 18, 2016 at 5:07 pm

Wedge pond is another good place to start very flat but not very long.

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674 Willie December 16, 2016 at 12:43 pm

Hi Bob
Could you please add a map of the Mt Shark Ski Trails under your Map Tab?

Thanks,

Done! -Bob

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675 Annie December 11, 2016 at 11:09 am

Is it true that Skogan Pass gets groomed?

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676 Bob Truman December 11, 2016 at 11:29 am

Yes, but you’d have to ski over some dirt and rocks to get there.
You can see a photo and read about it here http://skierbob.ca/2016/12/plpp-grooming-is-underway/ (scroll down)

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677 Barb banff December 7, 2016 at 9:25 pm

Anyone know if the CNC will be closed to public for races again this weekend?

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678 fallsalot December 8, 2016 at 8:03 am

I would say yes, Frozen Thunder for sure.
CNC main page shows next event:
12/10/2016 – 12/11/2016
Biathlon CalforEx Cup #2

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679 Hugh December 8, 2016 at 8:21 am

Trails will be open as the Biathlon has cancelled races this W/E due to the cold

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680 barb banff December 8, 2016 at 9:00 am

thanks Hugh!!now that’s timely beta
so we are Free to Freeze!!

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681 Jean-Francois Richy December 6, 2016 at 5:16 pm

Anyone skied goat creek recently?

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682 Darren December 5, 2016 at 11:10 pm

Hi, does anyone have any experience skiing the canal between Calgary and Chestermere? I can’t find any information if there is any grooming or track setting.

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683 pat davis December 14, 2016 at 4:54 pm

I have biked it. As the canal is crossed by several roads/streets, I doubt if it is set at all. Note I said “doubt” not “know”.

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684 Megan December 5, 2016 at 12:55 pm

Anyone know how the trails at West Bragg made out with all the fresh snow yesterday??

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685 Diana Piggott December 5, 2016 at 7:51 pm

Yes. See my trip report, but there is not enough snow for good skiing yet. Skiing yes, up to a point, but lots of scraping on rocks 🙁

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686 Scott M December 6, 2016 at 11:55 am

Thanks!

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687 Scott M December 4, 2016 at 10:13 am

I see that there are cross country ski trails in Waterton National Park. Does anyone know if they are trackset or are they strictly skier set/ backcountry.
Scott

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688 Scott M December 4, 2016 at 10:14 am
689 Diana Piggott December 5, 2016 at 7:50 pm

Hi Scott,

I have never been skiing there, but it is on my list! Look at Parks Canada site (hint: look above to Trail Reports, select Banff, then on the side you can select other parks, including Waterton). There will eventually be reports of the two groomed trails up the Akamina Parkway. Everything else would be “backcountry” skiing.

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690 barb banff December 3, 2016 at 11:00 pm

but this link is from dec 1st??!!’
read it- different story. A joke perhaps?

http://www.albertaparks.ca/kananaskis-country/advisories-public-safety/trail-reports/peter-lougheed/

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691 Diana Piggott December 3, 2016 at 10:42 pm

Knock me down with a feather! I just looked at the live grooming report, not expecting to see anything, but according to the site almost everything in PLPP was groomed on December 1st????!!!

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692 Henry December 4, 2016 at 6:33 am

The recent trip report by Kasia seems to suggest at least packing of some of the trails.

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693 Bob Truman December 4, 2016 at 7:06 am

When I checked the Live Grooming Report on Dec 2, it showed nothing was done. I think it’s a computer glitch. We’ll get to the bottom of it.

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694 RichieRich November 30, 2016 at 12:38 pm

Bob,
As our warm and dry fall continues (at least for a few more days), I have to wonder whats the LATEST date that PLPP has ever been trackset?

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695 Bob Truman November 30, 2016 at 8:49 pm

My records indicate the latest date for Elk Pass is December 12. In 2014. Funny thing is, we had tracksetting at Kananaskis Village/Ribbon Creek on Dec 3 of that year. I also skied Goat Creek to Banff on excellent trackset conditions on Dec 2.

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696 Peter L November 27, 2016 at 8:44 pm

Bob, et al,

Sorry if this has been addressed, I tried a search and didn’t seem to find an answer…

Is Fat Biking allowed on track-set trails in BNP? We experienced some Fat Bikers on Moraine Lake road today. Seems that they are going to chew up the trail for skate skiers.

Thanks,

P

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697 Pete November 27, 2016 at 9:29 pm

As far as I know bikes are allowed on the same trails in winter as they are in the summer in the parks. There’s a list of bikeable trails under the important bulletins section on the parks website. Fatbikes hardly leave an imprint on groomed trails as the tires are so wide. Regular mountain bikes on the other hand tend to leave ruts in the trail. Probably best to contact parks directly though to be sure on the rules.

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698 Jonathan November 29, 2016 at 9:44 pm

This is what I was told at the Parks Visitor Centre last year. As Pete says, the fat tire bikes leave very little imprint on the snow, probably less than skate skiers (based on what I saw on the Great Divide 2 weeks ago) and definitely less than a snowmobile. Last year there was a fat bike race at the Nordic Centre with a significant number of competitors riding 5 laps of a course that included a short section of ski trail. After everyone had finished, the trail was not rutted at all.

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699 Bob Truman November 27, 2016 at 10:04 pm

Pete’s answer is correct, at least temporarily. There are a few initiatives which BNP is undertaking to address the growing number of multi-users. For example, they are planning to encourage fat bikers, snowshoers, and walkers who are setting out from Banff Springs Hotel to use Spray River East and leave Spray River West to the skiers. Signage is being prepared to facilitate this, and possibly even “trail ambassadors”(that’s my name for them) will be on hand to suggest to users where they would have the best experience. Spray river west would continue to be groomed and trackset for xc skiers. I assume Spray River East would be groomed but not trackset. No user group would be prohibited from using any trail, but hopefully some education will encourage _____________.(fill in the blank). 🙂

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700 Maja November 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm

Any info on snow condition on Lake O’Hara fire road?
Thank you 🙂

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701 Amber November 29, 2016 at 9:20 pm

I skied in this weekend and there was enough snow not to worry about damaging the bases. Just skier trackset.

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702 Carolyn macaulay November 22, 2016 at 11:39 am

Any snow or tracking in PLPP?

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703 Jean-Francois Richy November 22, 2016 at 5:38 pm

Hi Carolyn,
I went today to PLPP and parked my car on highway 40 (10km after the gate when the highway will be closed on December 1). The snow cover was not too bad but no tracks yet. I went up to Tyrwhitt and turn back as there was fresh grizzly bear tracks and I did not have bear spray with me.
Cheers
Jean-Francois

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704 Diana Piggott November 22, 2016 at 8:05 pm

Hello Jean-Francois,

When you say “no tracks”, do you mean fresh untouched snow, or that there had been no grooming yet?
Thanks!
Diana

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705 Jean-Francois Richy November 23, 2016 at 9:37 am

Hi Diana,
Just no grooming, sorry for the confusion
Cheers
Jean-Francois

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706 Alec November 19, 2016 at 6:30 pm

Norseman Ski Shop

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707 John November 19, 2016 at 4:06 pm

Hello skier bob community!

I’m in the market for a waxing bench, or a ski form that I can clamp to a table.

Does anyone have any info on where to get one in the Calgary/bow valley area?

Thanks!

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708 Duane November 19, 2016 at 11:26 am

Good afternoon,

This note is in regards to the webcam in Peter Lougheed Provincial Park.

The webcam is currently offline due to requiring repairs/replacement but rest assured that AB Parks/Kananaskis staff are working to secure a new unit with hopes of having it operational in time for the heart of the cross-country ski season.

In the interim folks may find the Kananaskis weather stations, which we’ve recently put online, (http://www.avalanche.ca/map) to be extremely useful in terms of new snow, total snow depths and recent temperatures. To find the plots simply zoom in on the map and find the most appropriate location. While most of the stations are at higher elevations than the Peter Lougheed Facility Zone cross-country ski trails, the Mud Lake plot (http://www.avalanche.ca/map?panel=weather-stations%2F3) is close to the Chester Lake Day Use area and provides a decent point of reference.

Happy Trails,
Duane

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709 Emily November 7, 2016 at 3:54 pm

Anyone have contact information for booking the shangri la cabin up in Jasper. I only have bette weir’s old number out of my ski trails in the rockies book and its out of order.
Also, I’ve been trying to find one night two day ski trips to do into huts in Alberta. I’d love suggestions if you have any. I’ve done Naiset huts in assiniboine, Egypt lake shelter, elk lakes hut, and bryant creek.
thanks

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710 Gary Klein November 3, 2016 at 9:36 pm

I have a pair of old Cross country skis from Germany. The brand name is Sundei. The model is Sprint 2000 and they are 210 size. I was wondering if anyone has any information on this brand…??? Any info is appreciated.

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711 Henry November 4, 2016 at 7:56 am

What vintage? Are they wood?
The name ‘Sprint 2000’ sounds vaguely familiar. My brother had a pair of green-dyed wooden skiis that perhaps had this name. This was back in the early 80s. Purchased in Hamilton.

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712 Alec Bialski October 25, 2016 at 12:27 pm

Perhaps golf course owners should be emailed by each member of the nordic community to let them know that it is not a good PR for them.

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713 Sandi October 25, 2016 at 10:18 am

Thinking of cross country skiing at Canmore Nordic Centre Jan. 15 – Feb. 3. Are there any events, etc., that would interfere with X-country during this time? Any recommendations for a hotel in the $95 – $150 range with breakfast? Thanks in advance

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714 Henry October 25, 2016 at 12:34 pm

I’m not a local, or expert, but these links may help.

The Cross Country Canada events calendar shows nothing in Canmore.
http://www.cccski.com/Events/Events-Calendar.aspx
You’d have to check the local calendar at a closer date:
http://www.albertaparks.ca/canmore-nordic-centre/activities-events/events/

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715 Jeremy October 4, 2016 at 11:31 pm

Just a quick ICYMI, that Crystal Ridge Nordic(Okotoks) has suffered an abrupt door-slammed-shut in the face by their private golf club landlords -a very disappointing trend in the nordic community ski. See website for information 🙁

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716 Jeremy October 4, 2016 at 11:34 pm
717 Robert October 25, 2016 at 12:24 pm

Very disappointed to hear. It was a great urban track.

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718 Alec October 4, 2016 at 9:42 am

BC boots are fine for back country skiing. There are boots with ankle support from Ficher, Alpina, Rossi and Madshus. In fact, Rossi has a racing boot, which can be used for classic and skating, But that is expensive boot. My advice, go to a reputable small store and ask the same question. Put the booyts on.
The questions like your are too personal to answer in a generic fashion, properly.

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719 Henry October 4, 2016 at 7:29 am

I’m looking for a non-racing boot with a bit more ankle support.

Would the BC NNN binding/boot combination be a realistic choice if one does ski great distances but wants only one type of boot and binding? I’ve been a Salomon user so am ignorant of NNN.

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720 GordN October 4, 2016 at 10:24 pm

Henry,

I bought NNN Rosignol X-5 boots from life sport. Nice ankle support, easy in and out, laces slip a little over the day.

Can’t recall the binding this second, basic basic.

Call and ask if and when they’re doing the annual sale.

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721 Barry G October 7, 2016 at 11:37 am

Hi Henry. I too am anxious about ankle support, also always look for lightest weight and – especially – gaiter loops which is quite a limitation. Here is my non-expert experience for what it’s worth – not great, I am still on the hunt for some serious ankle support.

Rossi X5’s – wore these for 3 seasons. First pair: one lace broke after 30 days, 6 days later an ankle strap broke; these ankle straps just don’t seem strong enough to cinch up tight for true ankle support. Second pair (thanks to MEC’s generous return policy) had a painful pressure point in the toe box but I was able to push this out using a screwdriver handle from the inside; never had blisters from any XC boot until I wore these; got 2 seasons, 93 days, 1432 km from the second pair. Both pairs – treacherously slippery soles (on parking lot ice). Both pairs – speed lacing was just terrible, perpetually loosening to the point where I actually rejoiced when one of the speed locks broke and I had to put in normal laces; but not long after that, one of the fabric lace loops broke and the interior insulation at one heel deteriorated – beyond repair.

Fischer XC Control – one season on these now, found them at Norseman. Comfortable, better traction, a little pricey. The ankle straps on these are no more effective than on the Rossi’s – worse maybe, because the ‘male’ and ‘female’ sections of the Velcro are dimensioned so as to make it impossible to cinch the straps up tight enough to provide any support at all. Dunno, maybe these straps are only meant to hold the plastic support frame around the heel area. The tongue is not wide enough to fully cover my in-step which is a major PITA. Maybe these negatives are due to my foot geometry and not the boot design. At least the Fischer’s don’t have that pesky speed lacing.

Bindings. NNN vs Salomon – no comment on performance as I have never skied on Salomon but I will always stick with NNN after running into compatibility problems when lending / borrowing skis, since I find that the majority of folks are on NNN. Personally I haven’t yet found any value in the adjustable NIS bindings.

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722 Henry October 7, 2016 at 5:15 pm

Barry, thanks so much for the detailed description of your experiences.
This will help me tremendously when I go shopping.
Hey, two seasons and 93 days is pretty darned impressive!

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723 Henry October 8, 2016 at 8:02 am

I recall that Salomon got on the NNN bandwagon last year, so things look bright in the NNN direction.

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724 RichieRich October 3, 2016 at 1:23 pm

Bob,
Perhaps not everyone on this site is aware of the recent issues at COP regarding their XC ski zone and how they have dramatically reduced it. Additionally some of the ski clubs have been raising funds and putting together a work-plan for snowmaking and grooming at a local golf course (or two?) within the city. Personally I know very few details, however I suspect that many blog-readers would appreciate a bit of history and knowing how we are moving forward. Not to mention it would generate a lot of NEW blog-traffic!! So if you’re able to sleuth some truth and get some facts out that would be wonderful and appreciated.
Thanks!
Rich

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725 Leah August 27, 2016 at 3:19 pm

Hi have you ever tried skiing the paskapoo mountain biking trails in Calgary ( aka east lands?). I know they aren’t maintained by COP but are wondering if they were doable without being groomed.

Thanks

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726 Finn August 31, 2016 at 2:55 pm
727 GordN August 25, 2016 at 3:05 pm

Hey Bob,

Did you get a 2016 Farmer’s Almanac yet? Are they out?

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728 GordN July 25, 2016 at 8:21 am

Big display of Grizzly power (I assume) on the meadow just on the lakeshore at Chester. Seemed to be going for ground squirrel? Also, lots of dogs ON LEASH! save one, I was impressed. Considering the upturned vegetation was barely wilted I would presume that Bruin had been there in the morning hours pre us arriving at 11 ish.

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729 Diana Piggott June 11, 2016 at 9:09 am

Regarding Kananaskis trail reports:

I am unable to access any trail reports. I go to the page and get the map and listing of areas, but when I click on a particular area, nothing happens. Is it just me, or is there a systemic problem?

I can’t even figure out who to call!?!
Bah, humbug 🙁

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730 GordN June 12, 2016 at 7:44 am

I see what you mean.
Maybe the trail report has been lowered to two options:
Open or
Closed.

? “Kananaskis Information Line” 403-678-0760

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731 Henry June 12, 2016 at 7:52 am

When I use Firefox (Win 10) the area names that are in blue on the left side of the page do not appear to work. In Chrome or MS Edge, they take us to the page for that area.
In both browsers the map seems to react to our hovering over a name in the left hand listing, but otherwise the map doesn’t appear to be interactive at all, other than zoom in/out.

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732 Diana Piggott June 13, 2016 at 5:46 pm

Interesting…… I always use Firefox. I wonder why there would be a difference?
I will try to visit an Info Centre soon and see if anyone there can do anything.

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733 Barry G June 18, 2016 at 5:43 pm

Hi Diana.

Parks staff at PLPP and Barrier L VIC’s had previously coached me to go to feedback.albertaparks.ca. On the right side of that page, you will see ‘Still cannot find what you’re looking for?’ This link opens a box where you can submit questions or comments. Mention PLPP in your subject line.

I have used this feature twice, got a reply once but not the second time. I still intend to pester them before winter to find out the precise location of the Weather Network weather station ‘Boulton Creek.’

Maybe you could also report that the webcam feed from the PLPP Discovery Centre is still down.

Interested to hear how you make out.

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734 Diana Piggott June 20, 2016 at 9:51 pm

Hello Barry!
I tried giving the feedback as you suggested, and I have received a reply, though not terribly helpful:

“Thank you for your inquiry. For the Trail Reports, I found that it works when using the Google Browser instead of Internet Explorer.”

I also mentioned the webcam, and they said they would look into it.

Here at home, I have tried looking at trail reports using Safari instead of Firefox, and it does produce results. A bit inconvenient, but better than nothing, and we did manage for decades without all this information…….

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735 Diana Piggott June 21, 2016 at 1:28 pm

More news today: the webcam is apparently causing them some grief…..

“As for the webcam, this is an ongoing issue we are attempting to resolve. Unfortunately it appears that significant investment will be required and we do not have a timeline for repair at this time.”

I would love to see a webcam at Highwood Pass!

736 Barry G June 28, 2016 at 10:43 pm

Google Chrome gets me into trail reports at http://www.albertaparks.ca/kananaskis-country/advisories-public-safety/trail-reports.aspx

Maybe a person should talk to a humanoid next time passing by one of the Discovery Centres but it seems that local staff have no influence over infrastructure issues so it would probably be more productive to drop in to the govt office in Canmore – a year or more ago, the office of the ‘Regional Director’ in Canmore seemed to understand how much the skiing public appreciates the webcam (see old email appended below). If more folks complained, the message might get through.

There is power and internet at PLPP VIC so I’m not sure why there would be a ‘significant investment’ to get some sort of camera running again. Highwood Pass would be a different matter.

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From: ESRD KanReg Contact Us
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:40 PM
To: Barry G
Cc: ESRD Alberta Parks
Subject: FW: Contact Us – web cams

Dear Barry;

Sorry for the delay in responding to your inquiry through the Alberta Parks ‘contact us’ web link.

In contacting our information and ‘web folks’ in Edmonton, I have learned they are working on switching the web cam feed to work in all browsers without needing to download a plugin. They are hoping to have it back online in January. Our web cams are very popular so I understand many people are missing this service.

Sincerely,

Lxxxxx Cxxxxxxxx, BA | Assistant to the Director/Office Manager

Kananaskis Regional Office

Parks Division | Environment and Parks

Suite 201, 800 Railway Avenue, Canmore, AB, T1W 1P1

P: 403-678-5500/275 | F: 403-678-5505 | W: albertaparks.ca

737 Mike June 9, 2016 at 5:05 pm

Hi everyone.

I’m heading on out on a back country hike. We are starting at shark mountain trail head and heading to Bryant creek, from there I’m heading over the Allenby pass to Banff cave and basin.

I’m wondering if there is enough water stops along the way that I would be able to bring my dog? And how difficult is this trail?

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738 Henry April 11, 2016 at 1:55 pm

Very brief time lapse video of sunrise over Rock Isle Lake, courtesy of Sunshine Village Rock Isle Lake Cam. April 11, 2016.

I’m sure that I saw some early morning tourers glide by -)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-461i3iQXmU&feature=youtu.be

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739 Cindy Heselton March 24, 2016 at 6:59 am

Hi all. It’s been a few years since being back in the land of snow but I can hardly wait to return. I have a short return trip to Canada in a week and planning to spend some time in the snow. I was just reviewing the trail reports on the K-country website – am I missing something? There used to be detailed reports for each trail, now just an “Open” status and a grooming report that seems to miss the entire south end (perhaps because it is not groomed). Am I missing something? Gov cutbacks? If anyone can offer some insight, that would be great.

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740 Jonathan March 24, 2016 at 7:14 am

Hi Cindy

You can check out the live grooming report here https://skitrails.info/report/plpp for the most up to date grooming status.

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741 joe March 22, 2016 at 4:13 pm

I was considering buying some roller skis this spring to help keep me in good shape throughout the summer months. I love skate skiing so I figured this would be the next best thing. I do have a couple questions about roller skiing before I dropping a bunch of money on gear. Thanks in advance for any good advice from local skiers!

I read that Calgary and Cochrane (where I live) poles are banned from pathways. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody roller skiing anywhere except around Canmore. Where can people from Calgary roller ski legally? Parking lots? Roads?

Some roller ski brands claim to have speed reducers or brakes. Are these commonplace now? Are they much more dangerous than rollerblading? I have yet to try out a pair; I asked Trail Sports and they don’t rent them anymore.

I hope everybody is enjoying these last weeks of skiing!

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742 PM March 24, 2016 at 9:24 am

Most of your gear questions can be answered at http://www.rollerskishop.com – they’re based out of MN. Skip the speed reducers/brakes and get a slow wheel/bearing combo. Check the FAQs and browse the skate ski models for fitting information.

Not a lot of options for Calgary-area ‘legal’ roller skiing. Below is a link to Foothills Nordic training sites – Church Ranches is one of the roller skiing options.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zWH7qr6q9Ifc.krlAWadCBl5c&hl=en

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743 fallsalot March 24, 2016 at 3:44 pm

I don’t find roller-skiing any more dangerous than rollerskating. In some regards it is safer because you are lower to the ground, you have poles for support, you have larger wheelbase and rubber wheels are much softer. Generally speeds are much lower because you are looking for a workout of skiing muscles not a thrill of speed.
I find it ironic that city that is proud to be an organizer of winter Olympics makes it illegal for cross country skiers to train on their pathways. It’s a classic example of bureaucracy run amok.

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744 Colin March 25, 2016 at 9:33 am

Joe, I bought the Fischer RC7 skates “skis” from a sale in Montreal that Fallsalot pointed out earlier and I really like them so far.

I have been using them without poles on Calgary pathways. No poles is the best way to start in my personal experience as you can focus getting your legs under you and don’t have any attention shifted to coordination of poles.

The balance is slightly more challenging than actual skate skiing in my opinion but it’s not out of anyones reach in my eyes.

I agree with Fallsalot on the safety comparison of roller skating and that your safety factor is pretty big if you’re not chasing speed.

As Alec pointed out there are safety risks, but these can be mitigated. There are serious health risks to sitting on the couch doing nothing is how I look at it.

Hope that helps some.

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745 Kaliper March 18, 2016 at 9:17 am

Red Earth Creek

Has anyone skied Red Earth Creek since the cold has returned? looking at that for Saturday.

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746 Dylan March 12, 2016 at 6:15 pm

Support your local shops. Spending “more” on the wrong product is still cheaper than spending “less”on the wrong one. Plus, it’s like an adult version of a candy store. If you love the sport, going to the local shop should be a treat not a chore, and the shop should make sure it stays that way. Today’s shops still need to compete in the reality of E-commerce and need to redefine their product, because it is not just what is sitting on the shelf. It’s their knowledge, it’s the experience they provide to each customer when they walk in the door, it’s the feeling they leave their customers with about the sport and the gear, it’s confidence in the decision to buy. Or perhaps it should be. There is deifineltiy something to be said for the physical shops but they too need to keep up with change, we should do nothing less than demand it.

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747 Alec March 13, 2016 at 8:48 am

Dylan is absolutely right. Back to rollerskis to make the point. The physical shop should and must make sure that the skier gets the experience that is satisfactory to his or her level. In my past experience as a shop owner I have seen too many self appointed experts who think that just because they are proficient in some activity they can spread advice to everyone. It is a false posture as advice must be given not from personal viewpoint but with empathy to personal situation and each situation is different. This is a problem of the internet advice. The case of rollerskis is very relevant as rollerskis can cause a lot of damage when used by relatively inexeperienced user. A personal advice is essential here.

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748 Colin March 13, 2016 at 10:48 am

Ok Alec. Appreciate the concern.

The original post was to merely inform other people of a sale.

It was quickly turned into a platform for people to peddle their opinions.

Hopefully this is the first and last time this happens on the Internet.

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749 alec March 12, 2016 at 10:34 am

It is not my shop. I sold it 2 seasons ago. As for 21 or 22 d century, I am not sure that buying on line of specialty products is anything but adding more junk to your home.
Commodity, I agree, but not specialty and we need to challenge our local shops, rather than buy on amazon or whatever.

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750 fallsalot March 11, 2016 at 6:42 pm

For people considering roller skiing this summer check this site out. They have free shipping until March 13 and gear on sale.
http://www.lacordee.com/en/wintersports/roller-skis
Disclaimer: I have no relations with the manufacture or the retailer.

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751 Alec March 12, 2016 at 8:22 am

Why would you order on line something that you need an advice and mounting of bindings for? There are independent shops here in Calgary that carry roller skis, such as Norseman. It beats me when the community does not support local businesses.

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752 fallsalot March 12, 2016 at 9:41 am

Those roller skis have NIS mounting plates on